Torsional rigidity of sports car bodies

Vesta, Priora, suspension, rigidity and softness.

The fact that they put more goodies into the Priora does not make it better structurally. The buns are all a convention. They may be, they may not be. But the chassis and suspension of the Vesta are better, and this is the most important thing. This is comfort. And no amount of goodies can cancel this fact.

The Vesta platform is cheaper than the Priora.

The levers of the vest are made from stamping. CV joints internal tripod. glass insert without rubber seals, headlights are not completely chromed, etc., etc.

And all your “comfort” is created by installing soft bushings, bushing springs, bushing light levers, etc...

And the funny thing is that the consumer does not understand that comfort in a car brings deterioration in its design.

The first photo is Vesta, the second is Niva. the weight of the cars is almost the same... but what different springs are used...

comfort = fagot and complete lack of safety margin.

The smaller the mass of unsprung parts and the mass of semi-sprung parts (levers, rods), the more comfortable the suspension.

The higher the tire profile, the more comfortable the rider.

Vesta... has a larger and heavier body along with less durable chassis parts. This is a foreign car. I don't feel any enthusiasm about this.

A UAZ with dead front shock absorbers and half a ton of cement in the trunk drives very smoothly.

This is banal physics...

You increase the mass of m1 and it fluctuates less when the mass of m2 fluctuates.

You reduce m2 and it transfers less force to m1

you reduce the transmission coefficient (stiffness of springs, silents, etc.) and again M1 fluctuates less.

only all this is for a reason and all this has its consequences.

and I don’t think that cars were created by idiots before. in fact, they are not made by idiots even now, but now they are under great pressure from a herd of idiots.

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For those who want to get the Vesta effect on their pelvis... buy 185/65 R15 wheels. This is already half the way to Western comfort. Buy them not anyhow, but buy winter Velcro from a Russian factory. Why? It is soft... 50-55 units at Shore A.

Find yourself the softest silent blocks. if you really want it like theirs... drill holes in them to make them not solid... what's scary?

But foreign car manufacturers are not afraid...

silent block Vesta

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An entertaining psychological game, isn't it?

Cutting a solid silent block of a VAZ for the sake of comfort is scary. But buying a bucket with silent blocks cut from the factory for 1-2-3-4-10-15 million is normal. Not scary. all OK.

Everyone masturbates so much at this softness of the suspension that it starts smoking.

And when I suggest how to ruin the suspension of a VAZ so that it becomes like a foreign car, no one wants it!

What does this mean? About the fact that you understand everything... that the suspension in these imported buckets is really damaged. But the zombie effect is so strong that it’s easier for you to believe in a miracle. That I’m kind of wrong and everything is wrong. Your brain is now frantically looking for an explanation for all this. How to get rid of the split silent blocks of foreign cars from my memory. Forget about the pedestal levers and springs... Forget the picture with the weights. Forget this simple explanation of how to achieve the smallest transfer of vibrations m2 to m1.

Whoever is dumber will simply say “he’s a moron, don’t listen to him.”

Someone a little smarter will begin to weave in some facts from which he will try to put together a clumsy refutation.

Don't try, citizens.

There is a road and it is crooked. So that your body does not follow the topography of the road, the wheel should dangle like shit in a hole in all directions without having any effect on the body. This is achieved by a pedestal connection between the wheels and the body.

There are no other ways.

Even his mother is a hovercraft and he will experience a blow from the air compaction that arises on a convex unevenness. Although it doesn't touch the surface at all.

Once again to consolidate... Do you want to turn the TAZ into a foreign car?

Hyundai solaris silent block. No wonder it fell off. After all, its design has a smaller adhesion area and allows for greater movement... so that the body in the elephant is softer.

Sayletblock VAZ Do you want it like in a foreign car? take a drill and drill it. Do you see it is solid? but for comfort you need a holey one. Take action! I'm telling you in action!!! Why are you sitting? …Then don’t tell me that foreign cars are cool cars!

1. If you believe that foreign cars are done correctly, you must drill holes in all the silent blocks of your car. (inomarophil pelvic aqueductor variant)
2. If you do not allow holes to be created in silent blocks, then you must admit that the engineers of VAZ, GAZ, UAZ were right and know better how to make cars for Russia. And you should stop jerking off to “holey comfort.”
3. If you have a foreign car and it’s already full of holes in the rubber bands from the factory... and you think that’s how it should be. Everything is supposedly correct. Then you must admit the superiority of VAZ cars... they are made stronger, more reliable and it cost more than your foreign car... more expensive in cost, not for the buyer. And you paid more for a cheap option with holes... accordingly, you were screwed.

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PS I have long wanted to kill my silent parts, pick them out and make exactly the same ones but from softer rubber (there is such an opportunity to prove with a full-scale experiment that I am right. Make them not solid and soft) . But there is a problem... VAZ factory silent blocks do not want to die. And the mentality does not allow spoiling good ones.

PS2 Drill the holes, drill them out. I’m telling you for sure there will be more comfort! Look how comfortable it is when the wheels dangle in different directions!

PS3 Do you think the silents in this car are full of holes? No holes or sheet stamping. They are probably afraid that at the speeds at which Ferrari develops, it is unacceptable for the wheels to dangle comfortably like on “the best-selling foreign cars in Russia.”

PS4 My fart is on fire and therefore the author is absolutely wrong. I see that he is right, but I can’t believe it because... He cannot be right, because if he were right... there would be a catastrophe for my worldview. Therefore, he is absolutely wrong. We urgently need to find a delusional and plausible refutation of his simple truths. He's just a sucker who doesn't know what he's talking about. After all, the rigidity of the metal body and suspension settings are also important. I don’t know what these words mean, but I definitely believe that body rigidity plays some significance! This is definitely very important!

In any case, Lanos handles better than Viper! The body is tougher!

So body rigidity is very important. And it doesn’t matter that the leader has a skidpad in tests and tests on 8k - the Dodge Viper has a little better stiffness than the Oka. because it is very important under what pressure the body will twist by one degree... under a pressure of 7 tons or 50 tons. Much more important are rubber bands that crumple under pressure of 100 kg