Which springs are better to put on VAZ 2114 and 2115


How to lower a VAZ 2114 with your own hands

Lada 2114 Samara (VAZ 2114)
Recently, young people have started to have a tendency to undervalue their cars. As they say: “A low pelvis is pleasing to the eye!” I’ll say right away that if you decide to lower your VAZ, you can do this in several ways, but the easiest and cheapest is to cut the springs. But, I want to warn you that on bumps it will not be very pleasant, due to the fact that all the impacts will go to the bump stops, the spring will not smooth them out much. If this doesn’t stop you, as in principle it doesn’t stop me, then this article is for you  And this article is also for those who don’t like the fact that the back of the VAZ 2110 is much higher than the front. To level them, you can cut off just a couple of turns - this will not affect the behavior of the car.

Well, less words, more action.

How to trim springs

  1. Immediately you need to jack up the rear wheel and remove it.
  2. Next you need to remove the shock-absorbing strut of the VAZ 2110, you can read how to do this here: DEVICE AND REPAIR OF THE REAR SUSPENSION.
  1. Using a puller, remove the spring from the strut.
  1. A turn is considered a complete revolution in a circle. That is, to cut one turn, you need to put a mark under the end of the spring on the next ring. (At your discretion, decide how many turns to cut, you can remove one at a time and put the spring in place, see how it looks, but this is a labor-intensive process, so I advise cutting 2-3 turns)
  2. Next we will need a grinder, we cut it according to the mark.
  1. If you are cutting springs into 3 or more turns, then it is advisable to cut off the bump stops, so the suspension will have some movement.

When assembling, keep in mind that the sawn-off side of the spring should be at the top. And also make sure that the spring is clamped in the cup and plate of the stand. If the spring is cut incorrectly, or the spring is installed incorrectly, it will constantly fly out of the bowl.

What threatens the low landing of the VAZ 2110

If you cut the spring by 3-5 turns, I assure you, you will immediately feel the difference in the suspension. It will become very hard and there will also be a knocking noise. But we, young people, are not afraid of this, play full music or put on a forward flow that will drown out the knocking. You can get used to this, but if you want to do everything the right way and the smart way, then purchase and install shortened racks.

Amateurs who take on tuning domestic cars face the difficult task of not turning their project into a “collective farm.” The blogger showed how to lower a car “according to GOST”.

The author of the Abram TV channel films the process of finalizing the VAZ-2114. In one of the recent series, he lowered the car, but not too much, but so that the car was still suitable for everyday driving. For this reason, the blogger ordered a complete suspension kit from Demfi, since he believes that filing the springs on his own is unsafe. Moreover, the choice fell on the Drive version, which is one of the toughest.

It is curious that the VAZ-2114 had springs lowered by 50 mm at the front and -70 mm at the rear. This decision was made due to the fact that the front springs would sag under the weight of the engine. After replacing the stock suspension elements with new ones, the motorist went for a ride in the “four”. According to him, the car has become slightly stiffer, but it looks more interesting.

Replacing springs to increase ground clearance

The car body hangs on springs, so they have a direct impact on ground clearance.

Springs 2108 are installed on the front suspension of the VAZ 2110 car as standard. “Tens” with 16 liter internal combustion engines are equipped with reinforced springs 2112. In addition, suspension springs are divided into two classes “A” and “B”.

If you prefer to load your car to capacity, then perhaps you should choose class A springs (yellow), because... They hold a little more load.

The rear springs of cars of the tenth family are also different. For example, springs 2112 are lower, but more elastic, and 2111 are higher, but softer. Anyone interested can check out the selection of rear springs on the forum or in the topic “which springs are best to choose.”

Do not forget that if the spring is very strong, then the rebound stroke of the shock absorber decreases (the shock absorber does not work, the suspension does not function), and there is a lack of ride comfort (the car is “goat”). As a result, rapid failure of the shock absorber.

Understatement -70/-90 at 2114

VAZ-2114 won't start? VAZ-2114 will not start (injector)

Greetings to my subscribers. Well, as we understand, we will talk about underestimation. For a long time I wanted to lower the car, but never got around to it. So I drove for 7 years without understating it. The factory suspension was there all along. I drove 78 thousand on it. Well, more or less the suspension was still alive.

So I chose Aston struts, SS-20 cups, Technoresor springs, rear donuts, SS-20 sound insulators too, Demfi bumpers, TRT balls with polyurethane covers, I also installed polyurethane boots on the front and rear. At first it was very unusual to drive with such a lowered suspension, but I got used to it and even began to like it. Now it’s possible to maneuver at a relatively high speed, there is no roll at all, the car seems to be nailed to the road. Very pleased with the stands. I didn't put spacers on the balls. I also replaced the external grenade covers with polyurethane ones.

Interturn spacers in springs, for what?

Undoubtedly, the interturn spacer allows you to increase ground clearance to some extent. This happens by reducing the compression of the spring. After installing such spacers, the car will no longer have the same rocking motion and the car will stop pecking at the front end. In addition, interturn spacers can protect the suspension from puncture, but they lead to a decrease in the shock absorber's compression stroke (the shock absorber practically does not work, the spring practically does not compress), an increase in suspension rigidity, and a decrease in comfort.

How to lower a VAZ-2114 for everyday driving

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Amateurs who take on tuning domestic cars face the difficult task of not turning their project into a “collective farm.” The blogger showed how to lower a car “according to GOST”.

The author of the Abram TV channel films the process of finalizing the VAZ-2114. In one of the recent series, he lowered the car, but not too much, but so that the car was still suitable for everyday driving. For this reason, the blogger ordered a complete suspension kit from Demfi, since he believes that filing the springs on his own is unsafe. Moreover, the choice fell on the Drive version, which is one of the toughest.

It is curious that the VAZ-2114 had springs lowered by 50 mm at the front and -70 mm at the rear. This decision was made due to the fact that the front springs would sag under the weight of the engine. After replacing the stock suspension elements with new ones, the motorist went for a ride in the “four”. According to him, the car has become slightly stiffer, but it looks more interesting.

However, the car enthusiast does not intend to stop there, because he wants to make a “gun” out of the “four”.

The car has already received side mirrors from LADA Priora, and it was decided to leave two pairs of “turn signals”: ​​in the mirrors and on the wings. In addition, the interior has a black ceiling and a new gear knob.

In the future, the blogger plans to install additional sound insulation on the doors and trunk lid, as well as make car audio.

Sources

  • version.info/avto/117860
  • drive2.com/l/529745253092034410/
  • drive2.ru/l/5903691/

Spacers as a means of increasing ground clearance

Some support kits (for example, SS-20) have so-called “spacers” (12mm). They are installed between the strut support and the car body and are divided into polyurethane, aluminum and plastic. I think the positive effect is clear - higher ground clearance, but the negative effects will be different:

  • In the first case, on uneven roads the polyurethane contracts and the bushings deform the car body.
  • In the second, ride comfort is not reduced, and the body is not deformed, but they provoke corrosion processes on roads with a sand-salt mixture.
  • In the case of plastic, no negative impacts have been identified.

Shock absorbers and ground clearance, where is the truth?

When the car is standing still, the shock absorbers will not lift the body - after all, it hangs on springs.
The role of the struts can be understood in motion, when the car sways and “pecks” on soft or dead shock absorbers. You drive off the curb and your car’s nose hits the asphalt! If the shock absorbers are in good condition, they will “catch” the car halfway. Thus, shock absorbers do not affect ground clearance, but have the same effect as increased ground clearance. Alternative shock absorbers may have a longer rod, which will provide more suspension travel. We discuss these subtleties in the topic “which shock absorbers are better to choose.”

Answers (2)

It's quite simple. Topics such as how to lower or tune a VAZ 2113, 2114 or any other Russian car have long been known and a lot has been done and written. But nevertheless, you can give some recommendations and give ways on how to do this.

1) Wheels and tires. Choose those wheels that you like and that visually match the color and design of the car

But the most important thing is to comply with the standard parameters, in particular the bolt pattern, which in the VAZ 2113, like other Ladas, is 4X98, the approximate width is up to 6.0 J - otherwise the wheels will stick out, the offset is ET30-40 - if less, then the wheels can also stick out a lot or touch the arches or calipers. Centering hole - TsO 58.5 - if it doesn’t fit, it can be easily solved with spacer rings

In general, there are a lot of rims for the R15 for the VAZ, and inexpensive ones, on average 2500 rubles per rim costs. Rubber is more expensive. For 15-inch wheels, you need to look for tires with parameters - 195/50 R15 - such summer tires - cost an average of 3,000 rubles. So calculate how much it will turn out: 10,000 rubles wheels + 12,0000 tires + 22,000 rubles. But you can, of course, find used options that will cost much less.

2) Let's move on to the second point, which is important - this is an underestimation. There are many ways to lower it, even to the point of carrying bags of cement in the trunk and in the back row of seats.

But let's list the simplest ways:

1) Cut off a couple of turns from the spring. You can easily do such tuning yourself, or in any normal service - they will do such a service for you for 500-1000 rubles. The disadvantages of this method are that you will feel all the bumps very strongly, and stability will not improve

2) Replace the standard springs with sports, shortened ones, which themselves are stiffer, and at the same time, the car will be more stable when cornering and on a straight line. The cost of this approach will be on average 5000-6000 rubles + labor.

3) The most interesting way to lower vases or cans is to install air suspension. It’s expensive, around 20,000 rubles including work, but in your area, and just in the city, you will become the coolest guy thanks to the Vase with air suspension. You can adjust the ground clearance, etc.

As for tinting, everything is simple. You stop by any tinting shop and for 2000-2500 rubles they will tint your windows. I do not recommend tinting the windshield and front side windows, as this may result in a fine and removal of license plates. Oh, and by the way, recently it has become fashionable among fans of the Russian automobile industry not to tint the windows at all - to drive like in an aquarium.

Spacers for springs

Spacers are made of high-strength rubber, do not deform and are able to support the weight of the car.
They are installed between the spring and the body. If the spring sag, then no spacer will save it, because in such a spring the interturn distance is reduced. Riding on such springs is already becoming dangerous, because the stroke before the coils close is reduced. It’s a different story when such a spacer is placed on a normal spring and a working body. In this case, it will increase the ground clearance, but at the same time the rebound stroke will decrease and the compression stroke of the shock absorber will increase, which in general is also not very pleasant.

The third case is when the spring is normal, but the ground clearance has decreased due to body aging. In this case, the spacer will not harm the car.

It is worth noting that VAZ did not approve the spacers.

Install houses on the rear suspension of the car

We approached the issue of installing spacers (houses) between the lower end of the rear shock absorber and the eyes of the rear suspension beam of the VAZ 2110. The convenience of this method of raising the car is that the houses, due to special holes, allow you to choose the height of the increase in ground clearance.

There are a lot of disputes about the advisability of installing “houses”; some claim that this is a good way to raise the rear if the springs have sagged, others cite a number of negative statements. Only one thing is clear: if you decide to install shock absorber spacers, then do not forget that three important parameters will change along with this:

  • position of the brake force regulator (“sorcerer”);
  • headlight adjustment;
  • the longitudinal inclination angle of the steering axis of the front wheels (caster).

These parameters are directly related to the safety of the car on the road, so it is important not to forget to adjust them.

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