Speedometer cable 2109 low panel

VAZ speedometer cable

Failure of a car's speed indicator (in other words, the speedometer) does not pose a danger and does not harm other components of the car and does not affect the driving characteristics and controllability of the car. However, having no idea about the speed of movement, the driver risks getting into an accident or breaking traffic rules, it’s good if he gets off with a fine. All malfunctions come down to a breakdown of the speedometer mechanism itself, or a break in its drive cable, the second most common reason. Replacing the VAZ 2109 speedometer cable is simple and accessible to everyone. It is only important to be careful not to accidentally break the limiter or speed indicator, our instructions will help you with this

VAZ 2109: replacing the speedometer cable in case of breakdown

VAZ speedometer cable
Failure of the car's speed indicator (in other words, the speedometer) does not pose a danger and does not harm other components of the car and does not affect the driving characteristics and controllability of the car. However, having no idea about the speed of movement, the driver risks getting into an accident or breaking traffic rules, it’s good if he gets off with a fine. All malfunctions come down to a breakdown of the speedometer mechanism itself, or a break in its drive cable, the second most common reason. Replacing the VAZ 2109 speedometer cable is simple and accessible to everyone. It is only important to be careful not to accidentally break the limiter or speed indicator, our instructions will help you with this

Causes of speedometer malfunction

The mechanism that measures the speed on the VAZ 2109 is simple: on the gearbox shaft there is a gear that rotates a cable, which is connected to the speed indicator located on the dashboard. The arrow on the scale shows the speed at which the car is moving and the kilometers traveled are shown.

Instrument cluster VAZ 2109

If the speedometer on a VAZ 2109 does not work, then you need to find out what the reason is:

The VAZ 2109 speedometer drive does not work;
the cable broke;
The device is faulty.

Checking the mechanism for functionality

The numbers on the dial are uneven or do not move;
when the speed changes, the meter displays incorrect readings;
the arrow on the scale stays in place when the car moves.

To determine the exact cause of a non-functioning meter, it is better to install the car on a lifting device or inspection groove. You can carry out diagnostics with the help of an assistant. To check, you need to unscrew the nut holding the speedometer cable. Then one person turns the cable while under the car, and a second person in the cabin watches the scale. If the arrow twitches when the cable rotates, then it and the meter are working properly.

Removing the speedometer

To determine the cause of incorrect readings or their absence and to replace the VAZ 2109 speedometer cable if necessary, in any case you will have to remove the speedometer. Let's consider the procedure if the speedometer in your car is round, for example from a VAZ 2106, as in the photo below:

Round device like on a VAZ2106

To remove a speedometer of this type, you must remove the front panel of the instrument panel
First, unscrew the two bolts securing the plastic linings on the steering column, then alternately remove the lower and then the upper parts of the linings
During this procedure, we remove the sealing ring from the ignition switch; it is important not to forget to install it back during assembly.
On the front panel (its lower part) there are two recesses, at the same level as the steering column. They have holes through which we gain access to the brackets securing the panel
We pry off the panel by inserting two flat (slotted) screwdrivers into them
If these holes are covered with film or factory-made polymer, you just need to poke them out with a screwdriver, awl or knife
The instrument panel will easily come out of the seat, providing free access to the speedometer and the place where the VAZ 2109 speedometer cable is attached

If the speedometer of your car is an old model, for example from a VAZ 2101, then we proceed as follows:

To unscrew this type of speedometer, you will first have to remove the air vent located on the side of the cabin heater, or the windshield air vent
They are attached with simple latches, which you just need to slightly pry (squeeze) with a screwdriver, or simply turn
Through the opened hole we get free access to the clamps securing the instrument panel
Release any lock (one is enough), then push the instrument panel into the cabin
If the shield has not been removed for a long time and the retainer has become sour, then we recommend using WD-40 or its equivalent.

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How to remove the top bar type

If your VAZ-2109 has a model with a high panel, you need to do differently:

First remove the steering wheel to gain access to the instrument panel.
If you have a carbureted engine, remove the throttle and remove the handle from it.
Now you need to remove the decorative trim; it rests on two screws.
Remove the ashtray and lighter.
Pull out the fan control knob.
Try using a screwdriver and remove the decorative handles to control the cabin heater.
Be careful when removing the power cord grommets leading to the cooktop switch and heating control light.
Remove the headlight range control and instrument panel illumination knobs.
Turn these knobs and heads and gently push them in.
Remove the air deflectors to clear the left and right side windows and remove the fasteners that were underneath them.
Pull out the headlight switch and extend it to the length of the wires, disconnect it from the power source. Place the shoes back behind the plastic part.
Remove the radio or stock radio and then unscrew the center decor mount.
There are latches along the edges of the trim that must be pressed to remove the trim from the instrument panel.
Disconnect power from the cigarette lighter, lights, and alarm clock.
Remove the decorative covers and speakers by disconnecting them from the wiring. Then turn off the power to the rear window and the heated fog light switch.
Unscrew the fastening and remove the instrument panel, unscrew the central screw on the speedometer and disconnect it from the cables. Disable the shield.
Disconnect and disconnect the ignition switch, disconnect the throttle control rod from the power source.
Disconnect the personal compartment from the power source. Rotate the rest of the mount left and right and remove the panel.

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Assembly is carried out in reverse order; It is especially important to monitor the connection of power supplies. We recommend that you watch the video before disassembling the panel.

PROCEDURE

Now let's figure out how to remove the drive when the speedometer on a VAZ 2109 does not work:

Now that you understand how to find the reason if the speedometer needle suddenly starts jumping and remove it with your own hands.

Replacing the cable

In fact, car owners everywhere are faced with the problem of speedometer failure, the premise of which is often a cable . To replace the cable, it is not at all necessary to go to a car service center, because you can easily cope with this task yourself, our instructions will help with this. So:

Go down the car (on a pit or overpass), then you need to unscrew the cable from the drive of your speedometer, located on the side of the engine compartment, move the rubber cap up, and unscrew the nut on the cable
After this, disconnect the cable
To disconnect the cable from the speedometer, you must first remove the instrument panel from the dashboard
At the same time, if your car has a low dashboard, then unscrew two bolts and carefully remove the visor, squeezing the spring-loaded clamps with your fingers
Then you can remove the instrument cluster
If the car has a high dashboard, then first you will need to remove the trim, then unscrew the instrument panel
Then you should unscrew the cable nut from the speedometer from the back side and pull out the old cable through the engine compartment, remembering how it went through
Because the next step will be laying (pulling) a new cable
It will be much easier to insert the plug into the compartment bulkhead if you first lubricate it with oil, for example Lithol

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Important: Since there are high and low instrument panels, there are two types of cables, shorter and longer, for different panels, respectively. When purchasing a new cable, you should either have a sample or know its length, otherwise it will either not fit (too short will not reach) or will dangle and snag.

Having removed the instrument cluster, it will not be difficult for you to remove the speedometer and replace it
Then we return the instruments to their place, having first screwed the cable nut to the speedometer, and insert the panel into its original place

Everything with the speedometer is clear; in addition, we offer you a training video.

Replacing the Speedometer Cable VAZ 21099

Replacing the speedometer cable on a VAZ 2108, VAZ 2109, VAZ 21099

The speedometer cable is used only in mechanical speedometers, in new cars, such as the Lada Kalina for example, such cables are no longer installed, and a speed sensor is installed, but some family cars are installed. Such sensors were also installed in Samara, namely on all Samara injectors, but this does not mean that if the sensor is installed in a box, then there is no cable, as we have already said, it all depends on what combination of devices is in your car. That is, a combination with a top panel and a combination with a European panel (this is a torpedo from a VAZ 2114 ) was placed on the clicks of the device and thus on the instrument cluster that comes with the top panel, the sensor is installed using itself (if the car has an injector) and a cable, the cable comes only because the combination is mechanical, not electrical, but The sensor is needed in these cars only for the ECU (this is a controller), which must know the speed of the car and connect to it the operation of other systems, as in the case of cars with a Europanel, the combination becomes electronic and the cable disappears, and only one sticks out in the gearbox. sensor, well, about carburetor cars, let's say that they only have one cable, but there is no sensor in the box at all.

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Using cards Sberbank, VTB, Post Bank, Tinkoff
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Shipping throughout Russia. Delivery time is from 2 to 5 days. More expensive than regular delivery by Russian Post, approximately 50%. Parcel weight up to 2.5 kg

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Available payment methods:

Using cards Sberbank, VTB, Post Bank, Tinkoff
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Available payment methods:

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Using cards Sberbank, VTB, Post Bank, Tinkoff
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VAZ 2109 speedometer failure: how to fix it yourself

Damage to the VAZ 2109 speedometer, standard VAZ speedometer

In a VAZ 2109, the speedometer needle jumps - this is a very unpleasant phenomenon, which means that problems are occurring, as well as the danger of exceeding the permissible speed; a fine is not the worst thing here. As soon as you see that the speedometer needle is twitching on your VAZ 2109, you should seek help from specialists as soon as possible, or deal with it yourself. If you found this article, it means you want to figure it out yourself, and you’re doing the right thing.

Correction of mileage of a VAZ 2109 car

Sometimes, when a car is being repaired on a VAZ 2109, the mileage is adjusted to artificially rejuvenate it . Some drivers want to speed up the MOT process, others correct data for insurance companies or reduce mileage in order to sell the car at a higher price. Therefore, rolling the odometer is becoming an increasingly popular procedure when repairs are performed on a VAZ 09. Earlier cars have mechanical speedometers, while modern models have electronic ones:

Reliable speedometer operation ensures safer driving on the roads.

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Causes of speedometer malfunction

Instrument cluster VAZ 2109

If the speedometer on a VAZ 2109 does not work, then you need to find out what the reason is:

The VAZ 2109 speedometer drive does not work;
the cable broke;
The device is faulty.

Checking the mechanism for functionality

The numbers on the dial are uneven or do not move;
when the speed changes, the meter displays incorrect readings;
the arrow on the scale stays in place when the car moves.

PURPOSE OF THE SPEEDOMETER AND POSSIBLE CAUSES OF PROBLEMS

Before you figure out why the speedometer needle jumps on a VAZ 2109 , you should understand what is where and what it is intended for. Speedometers are designed to convert the rotational speed coming from the drive shaft to the speedometer sensor into an indication of the speed of the vehicle, and in addition, the number of revolutions that the speedometer sensor drive shaft makes is converted into a trip meter reading (kilometers) traveled by the car. But when the speedometer needle jumps or even spins as it wants, or may freeze in one position, it means that there are problems with the speedometer mechanisms and there may be several reasons for this. This:

A breakdown inside the speedometer itself (Washing machine.VAZ 2109: how to properly repair the speedometer)
Broken or damaged speedometer cable
The speedometer gearbox (aka drive) is broken

Replacing the speedometer cable for VAZ 2108, 2109, 21099 (High panel) Panel gluing

It is important to first understand why the VAZ 2109 speedometer does not work:

The speedometer jerks and makes a sound. Solving the VAZ 2109 problem

To find the reason, we climb under the car from an inspection hole, overpass or lift
If you don’t have any, you can get by this way - just slightly lift the car, put a reliable safety net (thick wide wooden blocks - you can’t use bricks), then unscrew the nut securing the speedometer cable
We call an assistant and with his help we check the serviceability of the speedometer and its cable
While you are turning the speedometer cable from below with your hand (having disconnected it from the drive) in one direction and then the other, an assistant in the cabin monitors the arrow - if at the same time the speedometer arrow jumps, then the cable and speedometer are working, and you should check the drive
However, there are cases, even though the arrow jumps, there may still be a problem in the cable, it has fluffed up inside the braid and sometimes touches it

Why does the speedometer not work on the VAZ 2109?

On VAZ-2109 cars the speedometer drive is mechanical. The drive and driven gears are installed on the secondary shaft of the gearbox, from which torque is transmitted via a flexible shaft to the speedometer located on the instrument panel. Considering that VAZ-2109 cars are produced with low and high front panels, the length of the flexible speedometer drive shaft will be different. For VAZ-2109 cars with a low panel, the flexible shaft will be shorter, and for cars with a high panel it will be longer.

The most common reason for a speedometer not working is a break in the flexible shaft , usually near the entrance to the gearbox. In order to check this assumption, you need to get to the instrument panel and disconnect the flexible shaft from the speedometer. Next, start the engine and drive about twenty meters, watching the tip of the flexible shaft. If it does not spin, then you will have to open the hood, unscrew the union nut securing the flexible shaft and pull it out. If the flexible shaft breaks, then only its shell will be pulled out, and its tip will remain in the drive. You can get it out using pliers.

If the flexible shaft is taken out along with the shell, it means that it is intact, but the edges at its very tip have been eaten away, so it cannot transmit torque from the drive gears. In both cases the flex shaft needs to be replaced, but remember that a tall panel requires a longer flex shaft.

In addition to the flexible shaft, the cause of failure may be wear of the drive gears . You will have to change them in pairs, and before you go to the car store for new speedometer drive gears, count the number of teeth on the gears that were there before. For new and old gears, the number of teeth must match, otherwise the speedometer readings will be incorrect, both in terms of speed and mileage.

4 main problems:

1. the cable does not reach the speedometer. I had this happen.

2. Lubricate where the cable is placed by the girl.

3. In the gearbox where the cable is inserted, the length must be adjusted.

4. the splines in the mechanism where the cable is inserted into the gearbox change the entire mechanism.

Speedometer VAZ 2109 | Repair VAZ 2108 2109 21099

Saturday, October 18th, 2014

What to do if the speedometer of your VAZ 2108, VAZ 2109 stops working. When driving, you cannot see your speed, so you can easily break the speed limit. Also, the mileage is not displayed, and you do not know the real fuel consumption of your car. And in general, it’s most pleasant when everything works for the car. The mechanism for measuring speed in the VAZ 2108, VAZ 2109 is simple (although of course it is outdated): a gear-shaft is inserted into the gearbox, which rotates an external cable, which in turn is connected to the speedometer dashboard of the car. The sequence of actions here should be as follows: first you need to determine what has failed - the speedometer drive in the gearbox, the cable from the gearbox to the speedometer, or the speedometer itself. Open the hood, unscrew the speedometer drive mount in the gearbox.

Speedometer drive VAZ 2109

Unscrew the fastening nut

Unscrew it, you have in your hands the speedometer drive with a cable connected to it.

Speedometer drive gear shaft

By the way, through the speedometer drive mounting hole it is easy to control the oil level in a maintenance-free gearbox.

Oil level in the VAZ 2109 gearbox

We ask someone to sit in the car and look at the speedometer readings, while we ourselves turn the gear with our hands.

Speedometer VAZ 2109

If neither the mileage nor the speed of the VAZ 2108, VAZ 2109 change, we try to turn it in the other direction. If, when the gear rotates, the speed jumps to 30 km/h and the mileage slowly but surely increases over hundreds of meters, then both the cable and the speedometer itself are working. The problem is in the speedometer drive (gear - shaft inserted into the box). If the gear teeth are licked and deformed, then it is necessary to replace the drive. If everything is in order with the drive, but when the gear rotates, the speedometer does not show anything, then check the connection between the drive and the cable .

Drive-cable connection point

Unscrew the speedometer cable of the VAZ 2108, VAZ 2109 and look at its end. It should be of square cross-section, the groove in the drive is also square, when the cable sits tightly in the groove, the rotation is transmitted further to the speedometer. But now this is not happening. Most likely, the edges at the end of the cable will be licked off, so the drive rotates, but the cable does not. Replacing the cable will correct the situation, but not for long - as practice shows, after a couple of months even with the new cable the speedometer will stop showing. Therefore, it is necessary to place a thin gasket in the drive groove: cut with scissors from a plastic bottle. Having thus sealed the drive groove, the torque will begin to be reliably transmitted to the speedometer. If you rotate the speedometer cable in both directions, and the speed and mileage do not change, you need to remove the instrument panel and check that the cable is securely attached to it. If the cable is pressed tightly against the panel, then the problem is in the speedometer itself and it needs to be replaced.

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Possible malfunctions and ways to eliminate them

What problems can a car owner encounter:

The shield works fine, all sensors function, but there is no backlight. As you know, the backlight on the tidy appears only when the side lights are turned on. Therefore, if there is no light on the dashboard, you need to check whether the side light, license plate light and lamps in the engine compartment are working, since one fuse is responsible for all these elements. We are talking about a 7.5 ampere fuse device F10. If it is burnt out, the device needs to be replaced. Sometimes the reason lies in the inoperability of the backlight control located under the tidy.
The speedometer does not work, in some cases the needle rises and falls, and it moves jerkily. If the speedometer stops functioning, then first of all you need to check the cable connecting it to the gearbox. Older versions used a mechanical cable, the ends of which wore out over time, causing the speedometers to not work. You need to replace the cable itself or try to restore its functionality by winding a piece of food foil around the end connected to the speedometer. If we are talking about an electronic sensor, then you need to remove it, clean the contacts and reconnect it; if this does not help, then the controller must be replaced.
The economy sensor does not function. There can be many reasons for its inoperability, ranging from failure of the device itself to damage to the electrical circuit. In practice, this sensor breaks down in many cars; this is considered a “disease” of the Nines.
The engine temperature controller does not work. If the needle does not rise at all, then you need to diagnose the sensor itself, located in the exhaust line of the cylinder head, next to the thermostat. You should also check the quality of the controller connection, make sure that the power circuit is intact, and diagnose the connector. It may happen that the needle rises sharply and goes beyond the red zone, while the engine has not even warmed up. Most likely, there is a short circuit problem; you will have to use a tester to diagnose car wiring or seek the help of a specialist.
The indicators on the dashboard or part of the backlight do not work. In case of such a malfunction, the cause should be sought in burnt-out lighting sources. You need to remove the tidy and check the light bulbs; if they are really burnt out, then they will have to be changed (the video was shot by Semyon Pedan).