Which low panel or high panel is more suitable for the VAZ 2109?
Despite the fact that the VAZ-2108/2109 is already more than thirty years old, these cars can easily be found on our roads. And you can’t call them bad - they’re completely normal cars. As long as these cars have existed, there has been controversy surrounding their dashboards.
The fact is that there is a “low” panel and a “high” one. The low panel was on the first 08/09, and later, a high panel appeared, which replaced the low one, from about 1997.
And each option has its supporters. Some people remove the low panel and install a high one, while others bought a nine after 1997 and are looking for a Soviet low panel to replace the high one with.
“It’s a matter of taste,” you say, and I agree with that. Really, whatever you like. But low and high panels have their own objective pros and cons.
Many people don't like the look of a low panel, but these people either leave the low one or install it instead of the high one. Why is that? I was not interested in this topic at all because I was a passenger on a nine with both a high panel and a low one... in my opinion, both rattle. But I wanted to figure out where such disputes come from.
Low panel
The main advantage of a low panel is that the stove heats much better with it, and this is true. In 08/09 with a low panel it is really warm, which certainly cannot be said about a high panel. The ventilation itself is clever and the airflow is correct.
The low panel is stronger and less creaky. This is recognized by the owners of both low and high panels. As I wrote above, I was a passenger on nines with both panels, and so, although both creak, the low one is much less. There's just nothing particularly creaky there.
With a low panel, the interior appears visually larger. And this is also true. The low panel has plenty of room to put something on it. And if you don’t like it, you can buy a panel overlay and make a tall one from a low one.
But the most important disadvantage is that the low panel does not have a tachometer. But firstly, it is quite possible to do without it, and secondly, no one bothers you to install a separate tachometer.
High panel
One of the objective advantages is the presence of a tachometer. Also, on the high panel there is illumination of the glove compartment and buttons. There are places for additional buttons. It also looks more modern. But the main thing is that many people simply like it.
The stove is cooler on a high panel. This is due to the ventilation design itself. Due to the fact that there are more parts on a high panel, it creaks more, but this can be solved by gluing it with sound-insulating materials.
Well, in general, if you change the panel, you can install it from a VAZ-2114. It fits in size because it is the same 08/09. Relatively not creaky, with normal airflow and a modern look. True, it is more difficult to redo the wiring there.
Today, VAZ 2109 cars that can be found on domestic roads, no matter whether they have carburetors or injectors, are equipped with three types of electronic devices. It can be a low panel, a high panel or a Europanel. Let's consider the description of each type separately.
Instrument cluster “Low” panel
Low version of the control panel
Let's start with the low option. A detailed explanation of the scheme is given in the table.
| Icon | Purpose |
| 32 | Indicates which turn signal is on. The indicator stops working after the steering wheel is turned. |
| 33 | A light lamp that turns on when the low beam is activated. |
| 34 | Lights up when the PTF - fog lights are turned on. |
| 35 | Lamp for turning on high beam headlights. |
| 36 | Notifies the driver that the rear window heating system is operating. |
| 37 | A signal alerting the motorist to the need to stop and repair a fault. |
| 38 | Speedometer. |
| 39 | A counter that records the daily mileage of a vehicle. |
| 40 | A sensor that notifies the driver about the temperature of the antifreeze in the cooling system. |
| 41 | A sensor that records the voltage level in the vehicle's on-board network. |
| 42 | An icon that lights up when the engine fluid pressure in the system is too low. |
| 43 | hazard warning lamp. |
| 44 | The diode lights up if the brake system is in emergency condition. |
| 45 | Icon for turning on the carburetor choke or choke. |
| 46 | Engaging the handbrake. |
| 47 | This element appears when the car battery is low charged. |
| 48 | Vehicle mileage counter. |
| 49 | An ecometer whose needle rises when you press the gas pedal. |
| 50 | A line that is not recommended to be crossed - the light starts to light when the gasoline level is critically low. |
| 51 | Sensor for measuring fuel level in the tank. |
Instrument cluster “High” panel
Instrument cluster on high panel
Below is a high-type VAZ 2109 instrument panel with electronic backlight. Relevant for both injectors and carburetors. You will find a decoding of the circuit and combinations according to the instructions below.
| Icon | Designation |
| 42 | Speedometer, which displays the speed of the car. |
| 43 | An odometer that records the mileage of a vehicle. |
| 44 | Sensor for measuring fuel level in the tank. |
| 45 | A signal alerting the motorist to the need to stop and repair a fault. |
| 46 | Test lamp. |
| 47 | A signal alerting the motorist to the need to stop and repair a fault. |
| 48 | Lamp warning the driver about a malfunction in the operation of the signal lights. |
| 49 | A sensor that notifies the driver of a lack of antifreeze in the cooling system. |
| 50 | An indicator indicating wear of the brake pads on the front wheels. |
| 51 | The light comes on to warn the motorist about the lack of fluid in the windshield and rear window washer reservoir. |
| 52 | Indicator of lack of engine fluid pressure in the crankcase. |
| 53 | The regulator measures the antifreeze temperature level in the cooling system and displays this data on an electronic panel with backlight. |
| 54 | This icon on the high combination of the dashboard is a tachometer, demonstrating the level of engine speed of the car. |
| 55 | Additional socket. |
| 56 | A button designed to reset the daily mileage. |
| 57 | A lamp that lights up when the car's headlights are turned on. |
| 58 | Daily mileage recording sensor. |
| 59 | A diode lamp that turns on when the side lights are activated. |
| 60 | A sensor that warns the driver about an open door. |
| 61 | A lamp warning the driver that he is driving without fastened seat belts. |
| 62 | A diode indicating that the left turn signal is on. |
| 63 | This element of the combination of an electronic panel with backlight indicates the charge level in the system. |
| 64 | A diode indicating that the right turn signal is on. |
| 65 | The lamp turns on when the engine fluid pressure in the system is insufficient. |
| 66 | The diode turns on if the fuel level in the tank is critical. |
| 67 | The choke switch lamp is found only in carburetor cars. |
| 68 | This element is activated when it is necessary to diagnose the car’s engine. |
| 69 | Handbrake light. |
Instrument cluster "Europanel"
Variant of the control panel on the VAZ europanel
Now let's move on to considering the combination of an electronic instrument panel of the Europanel type with backlight. It should be immediately noted that the description of the components below is almost identical to the low-type electronic panel.
| Icon | Purpose |
| 42 | Indicates which turn signal is on. The indicator stops working after the steering wheel is turned in the required direction. |
| 43 | The Europanel light lamp activates when the side lights are turned on. |
| 44 | Lights up when the rear PTF - fog lights are turned on. |
| 45 | Lamp for activating high beam lights. |
| 46 | This circuit element notifies the motorist about the operation of the rear window heating system. |
| 47 | A signal alerting the motorist to the need to stop and repair a fault. |
| 48 | Speedometer, which displays the speed of the vehicle while driving. |
| 49 | A counter that records the daily mileage of a vehicle. |
| 50 | This circuit component is designed to notify the car owner about the level of antifreeze temperature in the cooling system. |
| 51 | A circuit sensor that records the voltage level in the vehicle’s on-board network. |
| 52 | An icon that lights up when the engine fluid pressure in the system is too low. |
| 53 | Hazard warning light. |
| 54 | The diode lights up if the brake system is in an emergency condition and attention needs to be paid to its diagnostics. |
| 55 | Icon for turning on the choke of a carburetor engine. |
| 56 | Engaging the handbrake. |
| 57 | This element in the diagram lights up when the car’s battery charge is too low. To avoid problems starting the engine, it is better to recharge the battery. |
| 58 | Meter of the vehicle's total mileage in kilometers. |
| 59 | An ecometer whose needle rises when you press the gas pedal. The ecometer allows you to slightly save fuel on the vehicle. |
| 60 | A line on the diagram that is not recommended to be crossed. The diode lamp is activated when the level of gasoline in the tank is critically low. To avoid stopping on the road, you should add fuel. |
| 61 | Sensor for measuring fuel level in the tank. |
Relay and fuse box diagram 2109
The fuse blocks do not depend on the fuel injection system used - carburetor or injector. BP will differ only by year of manufacture of the car. That is, the mounting blocks for the carburetor and injector are the same. The VAZ 2109-099 fuse box (carburetor, injector) is located under the hood, in the compartment in front of the windshield on the left side.
Fuse block 2114-3722010-18
K1-relay for turning on headlight cleaners; K2-relay-breaker for direction indicators and hazard warning lights; K3 - windshield wiper relay; K4-relay for monitoring the health of lamps; K5-power window relay; K6 - relay for turning on sound signals; K7-relay for turning on the electric heating of the rear window; K8-relay for high beam headlights; K9-relay for low beam headlights; F1-F16 - fuses.
Fuse block 2114-3722010-60
K1 - Headlight wiper relay, K2 - Turn signal and hazard warning relay, K3 - Windshield wiper relay, K4 - Brake light and parking light relay, K5 - Power window relay, K6 - Horn relay , K7 - Rear window heating relay, K8 - Headlight high beam relay, K9 - Headlight low beam relay, F1 - F16 - Fuses, F1 - F20 - Spare fuses.
Attention! The power terminals on the generator often become loose, heat up, spark and melt the wiring. Pay attention to this point when searching for possible faults yourself.
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Possible faults
What malfunctions are typical for the dashboards of VAZ cars? Check out the main list after watching a video about connecting the shield from a VAZ 2110 to a “nine” (the author of the video is Garage BFS).
- The speedometer does not work. There may be several reasons for this - a broken cable, its incorrect installation or wear of the socket. You should try disconnecting the cable and reconnecting it.
- The odometer, which records the mileage of the vehicle, does not work. This problem is usually resolved by replacing the device.
- One or another indicator does not light up. Perhaps the sensor itself has failed or the light bulb has burned out.
- The instrument panel backlight does not work. This is usually due to burnt out bulbs or bad contacts. There may also be problems in the electrical circuit, but this happens rarely.
- The coolant or oil level sensor is giving incorrect information. For example, the driver is warned about a lack of engine fluid level or boiling refrigerant in the expansion tank, but in fact, with these parameters everything is normal. The problem is usually solved by replacing the sensors.
Instrument cluster VAZ-2114
It is equipped with an electronic speedometer, tachometer, fuel level and coolant temperature scales. The express diagnostic unit in the instrument panel 2114 has been simplified: instead of it, there are indicators of the health of the headlight bulbs and brake pads, as well as the “Check Engine” icon. The remaining warning lamps (oil pressure, battery charge, direction of rotation, side lights, low beam, high beam) are located in the lower corners of the device.
Installation and repair instructions
If you are faced with the problem of a failure of the dashboard of a VAZ 2109 vehicle, then the best option would be to replace the dashboard yourself. To properly replace, you will need instructions for dismantling and installing the shield, which are given below. To perform these steps, you only need screwdrivers - flat-head and Phillips-head. The instructions are given on the example of a low panel, but in general they are identical for other versions of instrument panels. Don't forget to disconnect the battery!
Unscrew the screws of the shield visor. Disconnect the speedometer cable. Disconnect the ecometer hose.
- First of all, you need to de-energize the system; to do this, disconnect the terminals from the battery.
- Using a Phillips screwdriver, unscrew the plastic trim around the steering wheel. You don’t have to remove it, but it is advisable to do so for greater convenience.
- You can also disconnect the steering column switches by simply unplugging the wiring harness.
- Using a Phillips screwdriver, unscrew the two small screws securing the dashboard visor and remove this element.
- After these steps, you can compress the springs and remove the electronic panel from the center console.
- The next step is to disconnect the speedometer cable. It is necessary to be very careful when dismantling so as not to damage the cable, especially if it is old. Otherwise, it will need to be replaced.
- Next, turn off the white outlet and remove the econometer hose.
- Then you should disconnect the cable for resetting the car’s daily mileage data from the speedometer.
- The final step will be to disconnect the red connector and dismantle the shield itself. A new panel is replaced and installed, after which further assembly is carried out in the reverse order.
As you can see, the procedure for replacing the instrument panel is not particularly complicated - just do everything in accordance with the instructions and there will be no problems in the further operation of the device.
How to remove the front panel (dashboard) of Lada Vesta | Topic author: Svetlana
How to remove the front panel (dashboard) of Lada Vesta
The instrument panel module on Vesta is a unit that consists of a cross member, a wiring harness with a mounting block assembly, a heater/air conditioning/ventilation unit, a frame assembly with deflectors, air ducts and an instrument cluster. Let's look at the instructions for removing and disassembling this module. Removing the instrument panel module assembly Removing the dashboard begins with disconnecting the ground wire terminal from the battery. Then you need to: unload the refrigerant and drain the coolant; disconnect the pipelines from the evaporator block by unscrewing the bolt (No. 2), and install technological plugs on the pipelines and holes of the evaporator block; remove the hoses from the heater radiator pipes by squeezing the clamps (No. 3 and 4). Remove the trims: wind window pillars (snapping the clips); front right threshold (unscrew screw No. 3 and snap the clips); floor tunnel (front). On the left side, unscrew two bolts (No. 2) of the lower fastening of the dashboard to the floor tunnel.
Remove the steering shaft housing by removing three screws (No. 3).
Unscrew the four nuts (No. 2) securing the electric power steering shaft assembly to the cross member of the instrument panel; Disconnect the blocks with wires and lower the steering shaft to the floor. To prevent the steering shaft from becoming disconnected from the power steering, the steering wheel adjustment lever should be set to the lock position. Disconnect the connectors with wires (No. 1) from: instrument panel; electronic accelerator pedal; clutch pedal switch; brake pedal switch. Disconnect the ground wires by unscrewing the two nuts (No. 2).
Remove the plug (No. 1) using a flat-head screwdriver and unscrew the bolt (No. 2) of the upper crossmember fastening several turns; Before unscrewing the bolt, protect the adjacent area of the windshield from accidental damage; Remove the side trims of the dashboard (No. 4 and 7) on both sides; Disconnect the block with wires (No. 9) from the switch (No. 8); Remove two screws (No. 5 and 11) securing the crossbar. Disconnect the ground wire (No. 3); Disconnect the connectors with the wires (No. 2). Disconnect the connectors (No. 2) of the antenna cable.
Disconnect the condensate drain pipe (No. 2) from the air conditioner unit.
Remove the instrument panel module assembly together with an assistant.
Let us remind you that these instructions for removing the dashboard will be useful when installing additional sound insulation for the engine shield. When reassembling, use madeline (anti-creaking) to prevent the appearance of crickets and squeaks. Have you ever had to remove the dashboard on Vesta? What difficulties did you have to face?
