First, briefly about the situation. Over time, on old cars, and even on new ones, the doors begin to sag. On old cars, they sag from time to time (natural wear), from irregular lubrication, or rather, from lack of lubrication at all. But on new ones, the metal and its quality probably play a role. Well, the frequency of use. This mainly affects the front door hinges; if the car was in a taxi, then the rear ones too. but still the rear ones are smaller.
The front doors of my car were hanging loose. The gap between the frame and the roof became large, the rubber did not fit well. I thought about how to do it. Digesting the entire loop is difficult and time-consuming. It’s also difficult to set everything up so that it works smoothly. But people are digesting it, I ruled out this option. I don’t have a semi-automatic weapon, and poking with an electrode is not convenient. High accuracy is needed there. And if it’s the first time, there’s no point in changing it. can be simply repaired.
Yesterday on the day off, my father and I decided to do some repairs. It’s better to do this whole thing together.
Let's look at how the loop itself is constructed.
It can wear out differently.
Play can appear both in the main part of the loop, that is, in the ears, and in the outer part (which is screwed to the stand) where the cotter pin goes. The difference in this wear location depends on where the cotter pin is inserted more tightly at the factory.
If the cotter pin is inserted tightly into the ears of the main part of the loop, and there is a gap in the outer canopy, then naturally everything in the ears will rust and stay in place, only the outer canopy will work and the middle part will wear out. If it turns out the other way around, that at the factory the cotter pin is inserted tightly into the outer canopy, but the lugs are loose, then the cotter pin in the lugs will work and wear out, but will rust inside, in the middle part of the outer canopy.
In my case, there were two options. The left door has wear in the ears. And on the right door in the middle part of the outer awnings. (As it turned out later, the cotter pin actually broke inside) and it had to be replaced along with the external canopy.
We take a grinder with a thin circle and make cuts on the ears, where it dangles. If it dangles inside the outer canopy, then we cut it.
The pins of VAZ door hinges are a sore spot for owners of cars from “kopeck” to 2114. These cars use not the highest quality hinges, which become loose after just a few months of active use of the car. They also become unusable due to hard locks, when you need to slam the door hard to close, and also because of roads, when driving on which not only the hinges, but also the body itself slowly but surely deforms. If the hinges completely become unusable, then the doors will simply stop closing, since the clip will not fit into the lock (grip). How to replace fingers?
Door hinge repair options
Failure or severely deformed hinges are repaired using the following methods:
- Complete door replacement. It is complicated by the fact that it is not always possible to find new VAZs for old ones. You have to buy old elements that are partially worn out.
Replacing door hinges, as well as fingers, is the most rational option in this case. It's inexpensive and relatively easy to do. If necessary, additional equipment can always be rented at a service center or automotive supply store. The cost of the hinges themselves for the VAZ 2110 and similar models is only about 300-500 rubles. You can also find old, used ones for sale. You will have to pay less for them. But new VAZ 2110 doors will cost several thousand rubles. And they are sold, as a rule, without glass and cladding. Their installation is an additional waste of money.
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1 Topic by san 2013-04-05 19:13:40 (2013-04-05 19:14:20 edited by san)
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Topic: Resolved: repair of door hinges VAZ 2110
Hello everyone, the driver's door is sagging (play in the hinge rod), tell me how to deal with this. Thank you.
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Re: Resolved: repair of door hinges VAZ 2110
It's best to replace the hinge. The hinge is not expensive; any service center with a competent welder will replace it in half an hour. All that remains is to paint and lubricate it (to make it last longer)
Of course, you can get confused, drill out the rod, choose a new one in size, etc., but it can take a lot of time, it doesn’t always work out and in general it’s very difficult to do this, and not everyone gets good results. So I would suggest replacing. Good luck to you.
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Re: Resolved: repair of door hinges VAZ 2110
For some reason, my passenger side sagged with such incredible play.
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Re: Resolved: repair of door hinges VAZ 2110
For some reason, my passenger side sagged with such incredible play.
This problem started with front-wheel drive eights. Structurally, the hinge is too small for these doors (compare the VAZ hinge with the Toyota hinge), but you need to remember that the hinges need to be lubricated to prevent wear, and since no one does this, they fail (high-quality ones from Ino – suffers the same fate). The reason for everything is moisture, the door hinges are not protected from moisture, but when they get on them, rust is formed, which, when opened, forms and wears out the hinge. As soon as the loop wears out a little, dirt already penetrates into the gap - sand and the wear process increases significantly.
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Re: Resolved: repair of door hinges VAZ 2110
hello, repairing the hinge cost little money, the old rod came out easily (I was surprised), I drilled it out and hammered in a valve pusher rod from a Ural engine instead. Just the right diameter. Well, I also had to adjust the lock.
Replacing pins in hinges
So, if the repair only involves replacing the fingers, then the first thing you will need to do is remove the door to gain access to the hinges (3-4 fasteners are simply unscrewed, depending on the model). Next, the fingers are knocked out. If they do not come out due to corrosion or deformation, then you should first thoroughly fill everything with WD-40 to remove the rust and repeat the operation. If this fails, you will have to drill out the pins or replace the hinges completely.
When installing new pins, be sure to lubricate them with grease or oil, and after installation, adjust the door (lower or raise it a few millimeters through a tightening rod). The door should fit accurately into the catch when closing without additional physical effort. Otherwise, the wear and tear on both doors and hinges will be much higher. After 1-2 years of such operation, you will have to completely replace the door along with the hinges.
The main difficulty in repairing VAZ door hinges is to correctly knock out the pins (the same fingers). It’s most convenient to just rivet it and then straighten the loop if necessary. The most aesthetic method is to drill out each end of the finger, after which its edges are ground off or simply squeezed. The drill is immediately taken to the minimum size, then gradually increases literally by millimeter. This will take quite a lot of time, but the loop will not be damaged.
If the finger has other deformations, it may be necessary to make a through hole through the pins. This will not prevent the use of new fingers in the future. For this purpose, either an impact screwdriver or a powerful drill with a high-quality drill bit (carbon steel is ideal) will be useful.
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Replacing the entire hinge
If the door is sagging, then the likely cause is deformation or mechanical wear of the hinges. It is corrected by completely replacing them, along with the fingers. You don't have to buy them. You can make it yourself if you have a metal cutting machine. Such repairs will be cheap - you will only have to pay for the purchase of high-quality metal plates.
It is recommended to cut the loops strictly along the boundaries of their wedging. Fingers are placed last. And again, you need to lubricate them, hammer them, and lock them, as the manufacturer himself recommends. Replacement without taking into account their manufacture (if you do it yourself) will take at most several hours, including removing and reinstalling the doors. All that remains is to make the adjustment. And you should understand that in the next few days the noose may fall. This is shrinkage. The door may creak and may not always slam shut normally. If necessary, readjustment is performed.
Percussion
You can straighten and completely remove a medium-sized dent by tapping it on the back side with a rubberized mallet. However, to do this you need to have access to the damage site. In the case of a door, this will require removing the door panel. Typically, repairs using this technology are carried out with mallets of various sizes, and to seal areas that are not accessible from the inside, hooks are used. However, in this case, traces will remain of them, which distinguishes this method for the worse from others discussed in this article. Read on to find out what else you can use to straighten a dent.
Final door adjustment
Adjusting a door after replacing pins or hinges is about aligning the locks to the normal level for precise closure of the catch. If you plan to replace them, then it is better to focus on the so-called silent locks. They cost slightly more, but allow the closing mechanism itself to not wear out so quickly. When installing them, you can select any level. They work on the principle of a classic latch. At the moment of closing, they do not create additional resistance, so the door will close even with a slight push. The lock will no longer be able to open while moving.
After installing the hinges or fingers, you need to use a building level to check whether the VAZ door is level.
If yes, you can start adjusting. It is best to do this from a clamp. Everything with it is quite simple - we move it a little higher and towards the cabin. You can do this a few millimeters at a time until the closing force is minimal.
Typical faults and solutions
Most often, VAZ 2110 owners encounter the following problems with the locking mechanism:
- It is impossible to close the door or a lot of force must be applied. Reasons: the latch is too moved inside the passenger compartment or the lock drives are incorrectly adjusted. Remedy: Move the lock outward slightly or adjust the drives.
- The door does not close completely and remains closed only in the first (emergency) position. Reason: The locking mechanism has failed. Remedy: repair or replace the locking mechanism.
- The door lock does not work. Causes: the locking mechanism has been adjusted incorrectly. Remedy: adjust the locking mechanism.
If the car has been converted to an electric lock, then it is necessary to diagnose the operation of the electrical signal from the key fob to the catchers, check the connection diagram and only then disassemble the door panel. The rear door lock is checked in the same way after diagnosing the central system.
Reasons for sagging doors
Several reasons play a role in the reliability of door fixation and the absence of sagging:
- Extensive wear on hinges and axles. The door of the vases began to close poorly, and opened with considerable effort.
- A metal squeak that appears when the vehicle moves on an uneven road is indicated by loosening of the door fastening.
- Failure to match the door fixing elements is accompanied by distortion of the hinges and the formation of cracks in the door body. This leads to uneven gaps, which contributes to the appearance of water in the cabin after rain.
- The door sagged after being hit in an accident.
- The doors were installed or adjusted incorrectly.
How to remove sagging doors
Advice: Before starting work, it is necessary to establish the cause of the sagging.
A small test may help with this:
- You need to grasp the bottom of the door with both hands. Then they need to be easily loosened and the presence of a gap in the vertical plane determined. There is no play allowed in the VAZ 2109 door hinge.
- The door is grasped with your hands from above and below and turned along the horizontal axis, moving the door is not allowed, there should be no gap.
- The place where the door hinges are fixed to the body of the VAZ 2109 is visually inspected and the hinges of the serviceable and sagging doors are compared, the differences in them are determined and a conclusion is made.
After researching and finding out the causes of the sagging, repairs can begin. In this case it is necessary:
- If the door sagging is due to increased wear on the hinge axis, then it is better to replace this element.
- Replacing the entire hinge assembly for a VAZ 2109 door is required if there are signs of wear or tear in the entire mechanism, then the cost of repair will be significantly less than when installing several new, heavily worn parts at once.
Operations to replace failed parts must be completed by adjusting the correct position of the door. In this case:
Tip: You can make it easier to adjust the position of the door after removing its counterpart.
- The door closes and its best position along the vertical axis is determined visually.
- If the door line runs parallel to the body, and the door itself can be shifted down or up relative to it, you need to slightly loosen the fastening of the hinges, both upper and lower, while raising or lowering the door. The door position is fixed with a screw.
- If a door equipped with a lock has a corner end that is slightly below the required level, and the hinges are in good condition, you need to unscrew the bottom hinge lock and level the door position. In this case, you need to place thin metal plates or washers under the loop itself, as can be seen in the photo.
External alignment
In this way, you can repair all dented parts that can be accessed from the outside, including doors. There are several options for removing defects using this technology. One of them is carried out using glue and special equipment, represented by an applicator and a mini-lifter. Repairs begin by gluing the applicator to the damaged area. After the glue has completely dried, you need to pull out the central point of the dent with a mini-lifter, and at the end of the work you need to remove the remaining glue from the car body.
Following the same principle of straightening dents from the outside of the part, you can pull out the defect with a piston or similar non-specialized devices, such as suction cups. As in the first case, the surface of the dent needs to be sealed with glue and a suction cup attached to it. Repair of the defect is carried out by pulling out after the glue has completely dried.
Another way to remove dents from the outside, also based on pulling them out, is to use a magnet. The repair consists of moving it across the defect area from its center to the edges, pulling it towards itself.
To avoid damaging the paintwork, place a rag under the magnet. It should be borne in mind that only a small dent can be corrected using this method.
The next method of externally straightening dents differs in principle from those discussed; it is based on temperature differences. Such repairs are carried out using a hair dryer and a can of compressed air. Moreover, to repair a dent in this way, you will need a powerful hair dryer capable of creating a temperature of 300-650 °C. Repairs begin by heating the surface of the defect, then immediately blowing it with a can of compressed air. A large temperature difference (more than 350 °C) leads to straightening of the dent. Depending on the size of the defect, this operation may have to be performed at several points.
If after this work there are traces of dents, they can be removed by tapping with a mallet. In this case, the damaged area should be covered with a soft rubberized material to avoid damage to the car’s paintwork.
How to align a VAZ 2109 car door
One way to align doors is to use a bolt. For this:
- A bolt of the same size as the pin is used.
- With the head up, the element is placed on the lower hinge of the door from the inside. In this case, part of the bolt should hang down on the edge of the loop.
- The door is carefully closed, and the bolt remains clamped inside the hinge.
- The door is then quietly closed and the result is recorded.
- The operation is repeated if necessary.
There are special instructions for repairing a door when it sagging, when the gap between the doors and the car body has increased. For this:
- The door is removed and its trim is removed.
- A longitudinal cut is made in the bottom loop using a small grinder.
- The remains of the finger are knocked out with a core.
Tip: When replacing a pin in a VAZ2109 door hinge, you can use a valve from a classic VAZ car, without internal filling.
Repair of hinges on VAZ 2109 doors
- Using a hammer, the canopy is pressed onto the valve stem.
Advice: You cannot tighten the element too much, the rod should be slightly pinched, you need to leave a small gap for welding.
- After achieving the required pinch, the valve must be cut to the length of the door hinge.
- The new element is inserted into the cut part, with its thick end remaining on top.
- The part is welded with an electrode. It is necessary to ensure that after welding the rotation of the finger is free.
- Excess metal is removed with a grinder and the assembly is painted.
The most reliable, but not the easiest way is to replace the door hinges on a VAZ 2109 car. In any case, the option for repairing door hinges depends on the degree of wear and sagging of the door itself.
Removal
When you have purchased the required number of seals, you can begin to work.
The first step is to remove the old rubber elements, after which the installation of new parts begins.
Let's tell you more about the dismantling procedure.
General information about the operation of a car lock
VAZ 2110 door lock adjustment
In a car, the design principle of all locks is almost identical. However, the ignition system lock is rightfully considered the most reliable. From a vehicle security perspective, the ignition switch is the last line of defense against theft. Car doors are a functional element that is daily subject to mechanical influence from the outside. Few motorists actually treat the doors of their own cars with care. Main functions of car doors:
- protective, which consists of maintaining security;
- insulating, is to create a visual seal of the car, thereby significantly increasing the level of comfort of movement.
Note. During operation, all metal elements of car doors, which are not practically difficult to notice with the naked eye, must be regularly coated with anti-corrosion substances, since exposed metal areas significantly increase the likelihood of metal rotting due to exposure to external adverse factors.
A Practical Look at a Car Door Lock
VAZ 2110 trunk lock adjustment
Cases when there is a practical need to adjust the car door lock:
- an unsuccessful attempt to steal and, as a result, mechanical damage to the lock;
- ultra-long service life;
- exposure to adverse factors;
- careless handling of a car door, etc.
