One of the features of expensive cars is the presence of an engine start/stop button instead of the usual ignition key. AVTOVAZ does not yet provide the “Start the engine with a button” option, but any owner of a Lada car can modify the design with their own hands.
Below are two diagrams for connecting the start/stop button:
- Installation of a ready-made kit with a button, control unit and wires (price about $35), see the Aliexpress catalog;
- Self-production of one of the most popular circuits based on automotive relays (costs about $6).
In both cases, the scheme can be implemented on any Lada car (XRAY, Vesta, Largus, Granta, Kalina, Priora or Niva 4x4), including foreign cars. The button is installed in place of the ignition switch.
The ignition switch can be:
- put away;
- leave. Connect the start/stop button to the ignition switch connector (allows you to return to the key-start scheme within 10 minutes), and to prevent the steering wheel from being blocked, leave the key cut off and turned in it.
Installation and connection of the start/stop button on Lada cars
One of the features of expensive cars is the presence of an engine start/stop button instead of the usual ignition key.
AvtoVAZ does not yet provide the “Start the engine with a button” option, but any owner of a Lada car can modify the design with their own hands. Below are two diagrams for connecting the start/stop button:
- Installation of a ready-made kit with a button, control unit and wires (price about $35), see the Aliexpress catalog;
- Self-production of one of the most popular circuits based on automotive relays (costs about $6).
In both cases, the scheme can be implemented on any Lada car (XRAY, Vesta, Largus, Granta, Kalina, Priora or Niva 4x4), including foreign cars. The button is installed in place of the ignition switch.
The ignition switch can be:
- put away;
- leave. Connect the start/stop button to the ignition switch connector (allows you to return to the key-start scheme within 10 minutes), and to prevent the steering wheel from being blocked, leave the key cut off and turned in it.
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This is the problem: when you autostart, you get into the car and the immobilizer is triggered every other time, and in order for the chip to work, you need to put it directly into the ring. Is it possible to remove it from the system altogether?
Please tell me how the standard immobilizer and engine autostart behave after installing this system?
There are no changes in the operation of the immobilizer, since this button is connected to the standard connector of a conventional ignition switch and only performs its function. As for autostart, you need to look at the connection diagram. But since most alarms are connected to the key, the auto start will not see this button. The button simply emits the operation of the key in the ignition switch. But there are a number of disadvantages: the car cannot start from the pusher)) and when the battery is very discharged, the button block takes on a charge and the car does not envy without lighting it.
Immo, he most likely behaves the same way as he always did. Another question is how convenient it is to use, so that there is both rfid and immo. If the RFID has a timeout of 15 seconds to start the car, then the immo transponder should be at the antenna at the time of starting? Then somehow it’s no longer sporty, with elements of a collective farm)) Like holding the remote control at the antenna while starting the internal combustion engine.
Hello, after installation my BSK stopped working, is it somehow related to the lock?
Of course, the bsk is connected to the lock =) it receives power after turning the key =) Orange wire.
Hello, after installation my BSK stopped working, is it somehow related to the lock?
In many recent car models, a button is used to start the engine instead of the usual key. How much better and more convenient it is - everyone determines in accordance with their preferences. The appearance of such a new product has caused many drivers to want to install a push-button engine start on their old cars. Therefore, it would be quite appropriate to consider how the ignition and engine starting system can be redesigned in accordance with new trends.
Installing the engine start/stop button (ready kit)
The easiest option to start the engine with a button is to buy a kit, which in a Chinese store is called something like this: “push start button start/stop car engine function working with car alarm system and remote central lock blue color back light.” Judging by the name of the product, the button and control unit can be connected to the alarm.
The most popular among car enthusiasts is the scheme where the engine starts with a button while the brake pedal is pressed. All presses are short, that is, you do not need to hold it for the starter to operate. This is exactly the algorithm we get:
- One press - ACC mode;
- second press - ignition is on;
- third press - ignition is turned off;
- To start the engine, you need to press the brake pedal and briefly press the start/stop button (if it doesn’t start well, you can press and hold the button, then the starter will work).
Universal connection diagram for the start/stop button included in the kit:
Now you can only carry the alarm key fob in your pocket.
Advantages and disadvantages of the device
First, we list the advantages of the “start/stop” mechanism:
- The driver no longer needs to use the ignition key every time he needs to start the engine. All it takes is a simple click;
- you can mount the “start/stop” anywhere. This means the car will become a little more comfortable;
- there are special schemes in which the start/stop button is connected to the immobilizer or alarm system, which is an additional security measure that prevents car theft;
The start/stop button can be linked to your car's alarm or immobilizer
But there were some downsides too:
- To start the engine, the driver must sit in the car and press the brakes. Getting used to this feature of starting the engine can be difficult, especially for novice car enthusiasts;
- if the driver decides to install an alarm with an auto-start function on a car with a button (to warm up the car in winter, for example), then problems may arise with this, which, fortunately, can be solved. The driver will just need to have a couple of key fobs with him. One of them will have to be given to alarm installers so that they can disassemble it, take out the microcircuit and put it in the car. After this, the current will be supplied only at the moment the engine starts. But for all this, the car owner will have to seriously pay extra to the craftsmen;
- If a button is already installed on the car, but there is no alarm yet, then installing it will cost the driver more, sometimes twice as much.
Start/stop button installation diagram (minimum costs)
| Without brake pedal | With the brake pedal pressed | |
| First button press | Turning on the ignition | Engine starting |
| Second button press | Turning off the ignition | Stopping the engine |
| Pressing a button when the engine is running | Stopping the engine | |
Required:
- Non-latching start/stop button (sold separately on the Chinese market for $5);
- 4-pin relay with normally open contact (3 pcs);
- 5-pin relay with normally closed contact (1 pc);
- Rear fog lamp relay (ZPTF), catalog number 2114-3747 (23.3777);
- Wires and terminals.
Description of connections to the ZPTF relay (wire colors are indicated for VAZ 21214 (Niva)):
- Relay working contact (+) - connect +12V from the battery (brown color in the ignition switch block).
- The permission signal (+) is also +12V from the battery, because There is a jumper between pins 1 and 2.
- General (-) - mass.
- Relay operating contact (load) - +12V is connected when the ignition is turned on (blue wire in the ignition switch block).
- Control signal (-) - connect the start/stop button.
- Permissive signal (+) - empty.
General connection diagram for the start/stop button:
There will be three connection points :
- Ignition switch block (pin 15 - +12V after ignition, pin 30 - +12V from the battery);
- To the brake pedal end;
- To the starter control (interlock) wire so that the starter does not operate after the engine starts. You can find a suitable contact in the engine compartment (for Niva it is a black-red wire), or connect to the oil pressure lamp or battery lamp.
If you use an alarm system , you can add another 5-pin relay to the circuit, which will block the button when arming the car:
What do you think, should we abandon the usual ignition switch with a key in favor of a button? Which version of this tuning suits you best? Let us remind you that the article presents only two connection diagrams; in fact, there are many more. By the way, do you know how to automatically open the trunk on a Grant?
Advantages and disadvantages of the device
Tuning Installing a Start-Stop button The idea of using a special button to start the engine is not new.
To provide access to the wires, you will need to disassemble the console. The button does not work when the engine is running, that is, the starter does not spin, but starts working after the engine is turned off and the ignition is turned on with the key. In order to start a car from autostart, with a manual transmission you must: 1.
Recommendations for installation Before starting work, you should take preparatory measures. She can turn on the ignition.
To be honest, I didn’t manage to start making money right away, until I understood all the mechanics of options, I lost about rubles, but as it turned out, it was a precious experience. If the goal is to implement a complex circuit with a start delay or with a timer, then in addition to additional components, in-depth knowledge in this area will be required. There are two ways to do this. Hi all!
When pressed long, the starter will rotate until the engine starts completely. She can turn on the ignition.
Advantages and disadvantages of the engine starting system
But the most popular place is still the torpedo. Which pedal should I choose for the engine start button?
The relay current consumption when the ignition is on is about mA. Installing a security device on a car with keyless start will cost more
Taking into account such operational features, it is advisable to give preference to buttons that are covered with high-quality materials. She can turn on the ignition
If the engine stalls, press the button - the ignition will turn off, press the button a second time - the engine starts.
I started looking for different ways to make money on the Internet. Algorithm of operation: Everything is the same as in the scheme with ZPTF, only now when you normally press the engine start button, only the ignition turns on its PTF relay. In other situations, a hole is made to size, allowing access to the wiring and allowing connection to the electrical circuit. Next, it is converted into a command to start the starter. The keyless entry and start system performs all other actions automatically. Start stop button with keyless entry and auto start
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My soul is not at peace when I don’t do anything with the car. The idea came to install a START-STOP button. I started to figure out what they were like and what they cost. I came across a domestic site where they want the simplest option: a block without a button (2600 rubles), the option I was interested in cost 3800 (block + button + RFID tag + reader). Both budget options didn’t suit me, so I started looking on aliexpress, where I found a button option that satisfied my desires, namely: block+button+reader+2 RFID tags. At a sweet price of 1760 rubles, plus about 2000 orders and 500 positive reviews. Without thinking twice, I ordered the system :) Here is the link. After 2 months of waiting, it fell into my hands :) And I rather wanted to install it, which is discussed below.
Installing and connecting the Start/Stop button with aliexpress
It's no secret that the usual procedure for starting a car is being replaced by new, more advanced methods. This trend is observed everywhere and, according to many leading auto analysts, will soon find its application in all modern cars. As you may have guessed, this article will focus on the so-called “start-stop” option.
It is worth noting that at the moment such modification is found only on a limited number of cars of foreign brands, and there is no need to talk about the domestic automobile industry. Nevertheless, anyone can equip their car with such a device at any specialized car service center.
On the other hand, you can install the presented equipment yourself, without involving outside help, by adopting some rules and recommendations. Let's try to cover them in detail in this article.
How the Start/Stop button works
Before starting all the work, it is important to understand the fundamental features of the device and understand the intricacies of its operation.
Without going into details, the procedure for activating this system itself consists of sequentially performing the following steps:
- disabling the alarm;
- pressing the brake pedal;
- pressing the treasured button.
The last action involves briefly starting the car starter. In order to turn off the car, you should press the same brake pedal all the way and press the magic button.
Execution of the presented algorithm will lead to the desired result only if a number of certain conditions related to the installation of working units and elements are met.
Such a superficial analysis of the system’s operation, however, does not give the car enthusiast a clear idea of its functional features. For a more thorough acquaintance with the operating features of the device, it would be advisable to study the circuit diagram of its connection, which is attached below.
Pros and cons of the device in the car
According to established tradition, let’s try to find out what positive and negative aspects are hidden in installing a “start-stop” button.
Let's start, perhaps, with the positives. If you believe numerous reviews, there are much more of them than there are minuses.
So, the presence of the presented system allows:
- simplify the engine starting procedure;
- increase comfort;
- improve the car's anti-theft system;
- save time.
If we talk about the negative phenomena associated with the installation of such a device, it is worth noting that they are all rather indirect in nature.
For example, in this case the driver has to get used to an unusual algorithm of actions for a long time. Some difficulties may also arise if the car has an autostart system.
In this case, in order to eliminate the possibility of malfunctions in the operation of the presented device, it becomes necessary to carry out work to reinstall the working module of the key fob. This will require the intervention of specialists and, as a result, unnecessary expenses.
Advantages and disadvantages of the device
First, we list the advantages of the “start/stop” mechanism:
- The driver no longer needs to use the ignition key every time he needs to start the engine. All it takes is a simple click;
- you can mount the “start/stop” anywhere. This means the car will become a little more comfortable;
- there are special schemes in which the start/stop button is connected to the immobilizer or alarm system, which is an additional security measure that prevents car theft;
- If the driver leaves the car for a short time, he can lock the car by simply pressing a button on the door. In such situations, there is no particular need to set the car alarm, therefore, there is a slight saving of time.
But there were some downsides too:
- To start the engine, the driver must sit in the car and press the brakes. Getting used to this feature of starting the engine can be difficult, especially for novice car enthusiasts;
- if the driver decides to install an alarm with an auto-start function on a car with a button (to warm up the car in winter, for example), then problems may arise with this, which, fortunately, can be solved. The driver will just need to have a couple of key fobs with him. One of them will have to be given to alarm installers so that they can disassemble it, take out the microcircuit and put it in the car. After this, the current will be supplied only at the moment the engine starts. But for all this, the car owner will have to seriously pay extra to the craftsmen;
- If a button is already installed on the car, but there is no alarm yet, then installing it will cost the driver more, sometimes twice as much.
How to install a button yourself instead of the ignition switch with aliexpress
If you nevertheless set out to equip your iron horse with such a device, it’s time to get acquainted with the features of its installation. At the moment, there are several ways to install the start-stop button. Let's consider the most common and fairly simple method.
To bring this idea to life, we will need a minimum set of components from Aliexpress, which includes:
- four-pin relays;
- connecting wires;
- diode;
- the actual start-stop button.
Once all the components have been found, it’s time to start installing the system itself. At this stage, it is important to adhere to a certain sequence of actions. This approach will save you from all sorts of unwanted surprises, which in the future can result in serious problems.
The installation algorithm involves the following steps:
- the positive terminal of the battery should be connected to the positive contact of the relay;
- the enabling “+” relay is also connected to the battery;
- the negative terminal is mounted to the ground of the car;
- the control contacts of the load relay are connected to 12V;
- the control negative output is connected to the corresponding output of the button;
- the enabling positive signal remains unconnected.
Installation recommendations
Before starting work, you should take preparatory measures. A lot depends on what kind of machine you are dealing with. Some people remove the car ignition switch itself by installing a simple key in its place. In other situations, a hole is made to size, allowing access to the wiring and allowing connection to the electrical circuit.
To work you will need a set of tools and some materials, consisting of:
- screwdriver;
- wire cutter;
- electrical tape;
- ready button;
- three four-pin relays;
- one five-pin relay;
- one relay from PTF;
- a set of insulated wiring with terminals;
- free time;
- installation instructions.
If you buy a ready-made kit, then you are doing absolutely right. The package includes everything you need, plus a detailed installation manual and the installation diagram itself. It is from this instruction that you need to build on, and not look for some universal guides.
Problems with keyless car starting system
As noted earlier, the use of such a system is associated with a number of problems. Most of them cause inconvenience only in the absence of certain skills in using the presented system.
This may include:
- the need to manipulate the brake pedal;
- inconsistent operation of the system in the presence of the “autostart” function.
How to unlock the steering wheel
Another important problem that motorists who have equipped their cars with such a system often face is unlocking the steering wheel. Of course, as a last resort, you can resort to a barbaric method and get rid of the blockage using simple manipulations with a mounting tool and other tools.
You can solve this problem as follows:
- The first option involves making a duplicate of the ignition key, sawing off the top part, inserting the piece into the lock and turning the key to position 2, which means the steering wheel is unlocked.
- The second method involves completely dismantling the ignition switch; by the way, the start-stop button itself can be mounted in the resulting hole.
But it’s still much easier to use the services of professionals. The fact is that it is not always possible to unlock the steering wheel yourself, due to the characteristics of a particular car. Therefore, in this case, it is best to contact specialists.
