On Niva, wheel bearings are two tapered bearings (on each hub, i.e. there are four in total), the tension of which is ensured by a wheel nut, which is tightened with a certain torque. When tightening, it is necessary to control the runout of the brake disc using a micrometer... but this is wise! But in fact, almost all motorists, and even more so “servicemen,” tighten it like this: spin the wheel (brake disc), tighten the hub nut, tighten it... tighten it... and so on until a given moment (at best). As a result, quick bearing failure! In addition, this operation has to be carried out when replacing a CV joint or simply after a strong side impact on the wheel, for example on a high curb. It was decided to replace the package of Nivov bearings with a double-row front wheel bearing of the Moskvich 2141 (No. 2141-3103020), as I learned, this bearing is also installed on some foreign cars. The overall dimensions of the bearing (37*72*37) allow it to be installed in the Niva’s front hubs, subject to some “alterations”. It is necessary to slightly reduce the landing diameter of the hub itself to 37 mm. And bore the steering knuckle! This is the most difficult process because... requires coordinate grinding (to make an ideal seat for a new bearing). You can, of course, get by with a simple lathe and a good turner (it will be MUCH cheaper!), but I decided not to skimp on quality and turned to professionals in this matter, who, in turn, made all the parts I needed for a “tidy” sum. You also need special support washers with a thickness of 10.5 mm.
Now a little more about all this: We remove and completely disassemble the old hubs, clean everything from dirt. We go to the bearing store and buy the double-row bearing No. 2141-3103020 we need or its imported equivalent in the amount of 2 pieces. Personally, I bought American bearings from the “Craft” company, number: CR4172370, if I’m not mistaken. We will also need two retaining rings from the front wheel bearings of the Moskvich-2141 car (No. 366553-15), they can be of different thicknesses, so we be sure to buy them in advance. If you have chosen the cheap option, then we take the drawings and go to the turner and spend a long, long time persuading him to take on this task... Then we carefully monitor the quality of the work. After everything is ready, we try to press in the bearing and begin assembling. If you choose the expensive option, contact some organization related to high-precision machining, explain the situation, give them all the parts (bearings, retaining rings) and go home, wait for the result. Personally, I turned to a turner and for a certain amount of money they sharpened the hubs to fit new bearings, bored (or rather ground) the steering knuckles, made 4 pieces of support washers, at the same time corrected the “jamb” with the neck for the oil seal on one of the hubs, and ground the seats under the brake disc on the hubs, and also pressed new bearings into place and installed retaining rings. Next, having received a set of ready-made parts, we begin to assemble! Because The bearings have their own rubber seal, so there is no need for standard seals. But I still recommend installing them (you can use the cheapest ones), if only to limit the entry of water and dirt into the steering knuckle. We assemble the hub and brake disc. In this case, it is better to take a new brake disc (or an old one, if there is little wear on it!). The fact is that to replace the brake disc on a Niva, you need to remove the hub, and these new bearings can only be pressed out against the inner race - i.e. The bearing will then no longer be suitable for use! Next, we press the hub into the bearing (in the steering knuckle), not forgetting to install the support washers (one between the journal under the oil seal on the hub and the bearing, the second is installed later, on the other side of the bearing, between the bearing and the CV joint.)! We assemble the entire assembly and install it on the car. Now we tighten the hub nut with a large torque (about 200 Nm), as they say: “from the heart”! And from now on we go and enjoy...
Reinforced, non-adjustable hubs
For Niva 4x4 you can find on sale reinforced, non-adjustable hubs with double-row bearings from the Iveco Daily truck. According to the manufacturer, this modernized unit has the following advantages over Nivovsky:
Is there an alternative to permanent repairs?
It must be admitted, but the wheel-bearing unit of the Niva 4x4, being one of the most loaded in the car, has never learned to be reliable. Whether the culprit is bad components or design errors is not easy to figure out. However, the experience of the owners suggests using alternative options, for example, replacing the “stock” with double-row bearings (IVECO, Moskvich, etc.).
Unlike the standard:
- The unit does not require adjustment or lubrication - all settings are made from the factory. There is no possibility of rotation; Wear of seats is minimal; Has an extended service life.
The difficulty of implementation lies in the need to bore the hub for a double-row bearing, as well as the relatively high cost of the components. But there will most likely be no short-term attempts to change the wheel bearing again.
Converting the hub to a double-row bearing
Do you want to modify your Niva, but have a small budget? Then we’ll show you how to remake the front hubs on a Niva with your own hands. Required:
We take the drawings and seek the services of a turner. The master must bore the hub to fit new bearings, grind the steering knuckles and make parts according to the diagram. By the way, some Niva 4x4 owners also use an AUDI 74x40x74 wheel bearing, in this case only the steering knuckles are ground.
After the parts are manufactured, all that remains is to press in the double-row bearing and reassemble the already non-adjustable hubs. At the end of the work, tighten the hub nut with a large torque “from the heart”. Their adjustment is no longer required, you can forget about the hum and howl while driving!
Have you ever encountered a similar modification to the Niva hub? Leave recommendations and reviews about your options for upgrading the VAZ 2121, 2131. Let us remind you that the domestic SUV has other shortcomings, which are also eliminated by modifications. You can also find information about the car you are interested in by its content.
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Installation
When the turning work is completed, we begin assembling the unit. Everything is simpler here - no adjustment is required, and the locknut is tightened “from the heart.” There is no need to worry about over-tightening the hub; it is almost impossible.
Stages of work:
- place the steering knuckle on a flat, hard surface;
- install the support washer and, using a head or steel pipe, carefully press the bearing into place;
- install the second support washer, then use the same tools to carefully hammer in the oil seal;
- repeat these works on the opposite side of the steering knuckle;
- put the steering knuckle on the hub and tighten the locknut to a torque of about 200 Nm or with moderate force;
- put on the wheel, rotate it and check the functionality of the bearing;
- We fasten the steering rack and ball joints.
We carry out similar work on the opposite side of the car. After the installation is completed, we go and enjoy - now replacement may be required no earlier than after 100 thousand kilometers, and maybe later. The manufacturer provides the same warranty provided that the installation was carried out correctly.
Technologies for strengthening hubs on Niva
Niva is a domestic VAZ car, which differs from its predecessors in all-wheel drive and the ability to operate in off-road conditions. The technical characteristics of an SUV still attract extreme sports enthusiasts to this type of transport, since it has an affordable price, is well repaired, and is durable in use.
When using a car in serious off-road conditions, owners very often come to the need to modernize and improve some components and assemblies of the vehicle. The Niva’s hub unit, which was inherited from domestic classic models, is no exception. And if it has proven itself well on passenger cars, the need to adjust the thermal clearance of the hubs on the front wheels has become a real problem for SUV owners. Let's take a closer look at how to make a reinforced hub assembly for the Niva.
Chevrolet Niva Zadornaya Shtuchka › Logbook › another topic about wheel bearings
In my posts under other people’s topics, I expressed an ambivalent opinion about the suitability of standard wheel bearings for long-term use. At the same time, I agree that the node is hemorrhoidal. I’m mentally ready to install Ivekov’s soles, but as a typical Capricorn, I’ll first check my speculations in practice. And they are as follows: our standard bearing can drive a car for a long time and without problems, driving in moderate shit and in urban conditions, provided: 1. alignment of the mounting holes (the replaced bearings have already passed 40-50k); 2. systematic maintenance (at least once a year); 3. with installation through a damper bushing. After reading (without studying) the EPK catalogs (a group that includes several factories, including 15 VPZ, 9 Samara Plant), the technical docs of the 23rd Vologda Plant obtained the following information: the bearing is standard and is produced by almost all factories in Russia under their own brands such as Volzhsky Standard, VBF , VPZ, and all the Chinese, who will pack what. The world industry leaders also do it. Here are its characteristics from the catalog of the Vologda plant.
Options for strengthening hubs on Niva
Incorrect adjustment of the hub clearance can cause a serious problem for the car owner. The consequences can be different, from frequent destruction of bearings, which requires constant replacement, to bearing jamming while moving, destruction of the hub assembly and the occurrence of an emergency. Theoretically, every owner knows that to solve the problem it is necessary to abandon tapered bearings in wheel hubs. There are two main options for solving the problem: installing non-adjustable hubs or converting parts for double-row bearings.
Installation of non-adjustable hubs on Niva
The first modernization option involves the purchase of a new reinforced Niva hub unit, which has significant advantages compared to standard products.
Benefits of using a reinforced hub assembly:
The kit consists of two knuckles with pressed bearings, two hubs and two boots. When purchasing, it is important to clarify how many splines your hub has, so that there are no problems with installation. There are kits for Niva that come with 22 and 24 splines.
Experts advise installing reinforced components in service centers, however, you can handle the replacement yourself, since installation does not require any additional modifications. It is important when installing new parts to also use new wheel studs and nuts. It is also necessary to lubricate all elements to prevent them from souring and before installing the caliper, clean it, which will have a positive effect on the progress of the vehicle’s pads.
The only drawback of this improvement of the machine is the high price of the hub unit. The second reinforcement option involves converting the hub to a double-row bearing and is characterized by minimal financial costs.
Converting a hub to a double-row bearing with your own hands
To remake the part, you will need to purchase two double-row bearings and retaining rings from Moskvich 2141. You can buy standard products or imported analogues of bearings. Imported products are characterized by higher quality.
Replacement
To replace the front wheel bearing in the field, it is necessary to remove the front axle brake calipers. Why you should:
- Hang up and unscrew the wheel; Using a chisel, knock the cap off the hub;
• Using pliers, remove the cotter pin located on the lower axis of the clamping lever;
• Carefully remove the axis of the clamping lever using a metalworker's drift and then remove it using pliers;
• Using a flat-head screwdriver, having previously removed the clamping lever and springs, remove the brake caliper from its seat and place it behind the steering knuckle in such a way as not to interfere with the further process (hang it).
Let's sum it up
The standard Niva hub unit is a headache for owners of a domestic SUV. For the safe use of a vehicle in conditions of increased impassability, it is important to strengthen the Niva’s hub assembly. If you know how to work with tools and have previously done car repairs, then this kind of modernization is definitely up to you.
Which way to choose to strengthen the hub assembly of an SUV is up to you to decide. It all depends on what financial costs you are willing to incur. Any of the proposed options will please you with an impeccable result.
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“Reinforced” hub unit for Niva with reinforced hub 2123 (24 splines) from VolgaAvtoprom
I purchased this product:
An initial inspection showed the presence of strange holes through which water freely gets to the bearing bypassing the seal...
Holes past the seal
VolgaAvtoProm has a conditionally dismountable unit (not dismountable) - each time an expensive bearing must be replaced. Because it comes apart and the clip remains on the hub.
In addition to everything, the hub has no traces of heat treatment and when measured for hardness, it turned out that the hub is completely raw.
Raw hub VolgaAvtoProm
As soon as I drag the 100% original Conveyor hub to the stand, I will make a note about it.
Now I’ll take measurements of the geometry of the VolgaAvtoProm hub. Then I will add the results to this post.
Its only advantage is that it is a little thicker - in the place under the oil seal, there is no press-on ring, and the hub is solid, which slightly strengthens the hub.
Continuation: I measured the hub, see the picture:
VolgaAvtoprom hub drawing
Diagnostics
In the absence of a special stand, it is possible to identify the problem. To do this, with precautions, hang up the supposedly faulty wheel. And then grab the extreme points in the horizontal and vertical planes and make swinging movements. A serviceable bearing has no play or it is insignificant, requiring replacement, on the contrary. In addition, when turning, you can hear rolling or cracking sounds. What then? It is necessary to change the wheel bearing yourself, because there is no talk of adjustment.
Installation of double-row roller bearings from the IVEKO Daily truck into the front hubs of Niva 21213
Wheel unit VAZ 21(21,213,214,218,30…)
one of, I’m not afraid of this word, the most colorful, in terms of purely Russian (obscene) words addressed to him by Nivavodov, an engineering sophistication, and today the managerial stupidity of AvtoTAZ is completely archaic.
When assembling, to adjust the clearance in the bearing according to the book, you need to: “...Install a new adjusting nut. We tighten it to a torque of 19.6 N.m (2.0 kgf.m), simultaneously turning the hub in both directions. Loosen the adjusting nut and tighten it again to a torque of 6.86 N.m (0.7 kgf.m). Then loosen the nut 20–25o. We check the clearance in the bearings: it should be in the range of 0.02–0.08 mm. We lock the nut by pressing its collar into the grooves of the shank of the outer drive joint...” It would be fine if I did it once and forgot, but the need for adjustment often arises, especially if you drive on bad roads. And if you miss the moment a little, the hub will begin to rotate in the inner race of the bearing, and that’s it - the play can no longer be eliminated by simply tightening the nut and I ran to the shops to buy bearings (2 pieces for 250 rubles each), a new hub (750-1000 rubles), and the sellers Thanks to AvtoTAZ engineers, meanwhile, they are happily rubbing their hands.
But okay, if I just went and bought the part I needed in the store, installed it and drove off, but no! After TAZ began installing hubs and grenades with 24 splines in Niva, the production of hubs with 22 splines for spare parts was stopped, like if you need it, then buy external grenades with 24 splines along with the hubs, because rich people drive around in Niva, they There is no problem at all in providing charitable assistance to starving Ketai people. So people are toiling around, buying the devil in stores: Either the diameter of the hub is +/- a kilometer, or the metal is raw meat, or the bearings are like crazy, you’ll understand what kind of fit. In general, again everyone knows parsley with the quality of spare parts for a Russian miracle of engineering.
Chevrolet Niva expedition › Logbook › * 6008 wheel bearings (experience)
The experiment with the front hub assembly regarding the installation of a package of two 6008 bearings with a spacer sleeve has come to an end.
Update 0:
After reading the forums about “improving” the front hub assembly, I decided to install 6008 bearings. Sharpening the hub obviously doesn’t suit me, and boring the steering knuckle is a filigree task, so that’s why this path was chosen. Moreover, in case of unsatisfactory performance, you can reassemble everything on the original roller bearing. And so, the low price and the humming original bearing made the decisive move - I ordered such a kit.
In the kit I received two VBF-6008 bearings for each side, a spacer sleeve, two spacer rings, two oil seals and a hub nut.
In the future I plan to replace VBF with SKF and fill it with the “holy” lubricant “Mobilgrease XHP™ 222”, I don’t know when this will be, since there are no complaints about VBF yet, and the lithol-type lubricant is still in place.
I am pleased with the modernization, for now I will continue sea trials.
Update 1:
the first unpleasant moment, the right hub works, the bearings in the left one are crushed. Apparently the consequences of installation without adjusting the spacer sleeve. In principle, this problem was noticeable even during installation, I thought it would get used to it - and in fact it got used to it, just not as expected :). In the near future I plan to reassemble it with adjustment of the bushing.
Update 2:
reassembled the left side. The hub needs to be replaced, SKF bearings, Mobilgrease XHP 222 lubricant. The spacer sleeve was processed with a “file”, as well as the side washers. After assembly and tightening with force, unlike the previous time, the unit turns easily and naturally. We can only hope that the hub is made geometrically correctly, and not as it usually happens here, either the machines are crooked, or the hands grow from somewhere, or the place is like that. And of course I hope that I didn’t mess up anywhere. Let's see how long she can run now.
Update 3:
And it only ran about eight thousand kilometers. The left hub began to move, tightening it did not help. An autopsy showed that two balls on the inner bearing had broken. Moreover, the separator remained intact. The outer bearing had no play, but did jam when rotating. No traces of moisture were found. The most interesting thing is that in this condition I drove for about 150 km and the bearings did not jam or completely fall apart. After such a story with the left side, I returned the roller bearings. Only this time I didn’t look for Ketai raw meat at the auto market, I took the best thing that was in the bearing store - the French bearing SNR 32008C. As is tradition, everything is treated with Mobilgrease XHP™ 222 lubricant.
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