The regulations do not provide for changing the oil in the Renault Logan gearbox, since it is assumed that the lubricating fluid is suitable for use throughout the entire period of use. However, due to damage to the inner boot of the left CV joint, water seeps into the lubricant. This is one of the conditions for changing the oil.
What nuances to consider, how to perform such work, and what liquids to use - we answer in the material.
Oil change interval in Renault Logan mechanics
The ATF transmission composition in automatic gearboxes, in addition to the function of lubrication and cooling, is, first of all, a working fluid that transmits force from the power plant to the transmission system. Logan manual transmission oil performs heat removal and smoothes friction in the operation of mechanisms, increasing the service life of the transmission. However, even in such a gentle operating mode, metal particles enter the liquid.
Despite the absence of any recommendations in the Renault Logan maintenance regulations, the first oil change in the manual transmission is carried out at 60 thousand kilometers.
Over this distance, the mechanisms grind in, and more wear products settle in the oil. After the first service of the gearbox, the shift interval increases to 80-100 thousand km .
Renault Logan Maintenance Regulations
Oil pressure sensor
If the oil pressure sensor lights up on your Renault Logan, then a fascinating set of checks of the engine and individual components awaits you. What could cause the sensor to light up?
- Low level of oil pressure in the engine. The simplest option is to check the dipstick, if you add too little to the required level.
- Oil too old. Look at the color of the oil, rub it with your fingers (you should feel oily). If the oil is too old, it is better to change it to a new one.
- Oil pump malfunction.
- The oil pressure sensor has failed. If you checked the previous steps and nothing helped, check the sensor itself. A visual inspection will help determine the external condition of the device. If necessary, replace with a new one. It happens that the sensor is covered in oil, this may indicate that the leak is coming through the sensor. Of course, such a part must be replaced immediately.
How to check the lubricant level in a Logan manual transmission
At each routine maintenance, once every 15 thousand km, it is necessary to check the oil level of the Renault Logan manual transmission.
You will need an 8mm square wrench and a special syringe to make filling the transmission units easier.
The sequence for checking the lubricant level in a Logan manual transmission:
- Remove the engine crankcase protective shield.
- We unscrew the plug covering the filler/control hole.
- Assess the integrity of the sealing rubber washer - worn and pinched elements need to be replaced.
- The oil should touch the bottom edge or just below, but you can touch the liquid with your finger or a screwdriver.
- At a lower level, use a syringe to add lubricant to the edge of the filler hole.
- Attention! Adding lubricant through the breather hole is not allowed.
- Tighten the plug and close the crankcase with the lid.
Checking the oil level and condition
Checking the remaining oil level is not difficult. To do this, we provide access to the engine compartment and find the dipstick there. We take it out and look where the oil print is located. If it is located below the Min mark, then this indicates insufficient volume. You need to add fluid carefully, as if it overflows you will have to crawl under the car and drain the excess fluid. The optimal level is considered when the liquid is between the two above marks.
Please note that it is equally important to control the quality of consumables. As with checking the level, it is advisable to do this once a week. In addition, it should be borne in mind that quality control is especially important with high mileage. In this case, the likelihood increases that the transmission oil can no longer provide high-quality cooling of gearbox parts. The following signs indicate that the oil is unsuitable: cloudy and darkened color of the oil, as well as its specific smell - as if it smells burnt. In addition, in spoiled oil you can see traces of mechanical wear - mud deposits, soot and even metal shavings.
All these signs indicate an urgent need for an oil change. Thus, we are convinced that the unsuitability of an oil can be determined not only by regulations or high mileage.
Which oil to buy for Renault Logan mechanics
Modifications of gearboxes that were used to aggregate Renault Logan with different types of engines do not make any difference when choosing an oil. From the factory, the Logan box is filled with Elf Tranself NFJ 75W-80 fluid.
It is not necessary to buy the original to completely update the lubricant. You can choose a good analogue.
When selecting an oil change fluid for a manual transmission, the specification and viscosity are taken into account. According to the API classification, it is recommended to use oils with a class of GL-4+ , however, liquids of classes GL-4 and GL-5 .
Motul Motylgear SAE 75W-80
The lubricant viscosity recommended for operation in moderate climates according to the SAE classification is 75W-80, 75W-90, 75W-85.
Among analogues, preference is given to the following oils:
- Castrol Syntrans V FE with a viscosity parameter of 75W-80 and API classification GL-4+;
- Liqui Moly Getriebeoil - 75W-80 (with GL-5 specification);
- Motul Motylgear SAE 75W-80 meets GL-5 standard;
- Shell Getriebeoil EP 75w90 - GL-4;
- Valvoline Maxlife MTF SAE 75W-80 (GL-4);
- Castrol Syntrans Transaxle with viscosity 75W-90 GL-4+.
Valvoline Maxlife MTF SAE 75W-80 (GL-4)
The jH1 and jH3 gearboxes hold 2.8 liters. The volume inside the jR5 has been reduced to 2.5 liters. Be sure to clarify this parameter in the instructions describing the repair and operation of your modification of the car.
How much oil do you need
An empty manual transmission holds up to 3.5 liters, and an automatic transmission holds 4 liters of lubricant. Typically, liquid is added until it begins to flow out of the control hole. If less of it fits into the box, it means the car is at an angle. It must be placed horizontally, then lubricant must be added again. There may be fine metal dust on the cover that appeared after the natural running-in of the engine. If there are metal shavings in addition to it, this indicates damage to the gears. There is no way around this without urgent repairs.
Changing the oil in manual transmission Logan
Before you start changing the Renault Logan transmission lubricant, it is better to drive a distance of 10-15 kilometers.
This simplifies the change, since the heated fluid is less viscous and drains more easily.
Renault Logan manual transmission oil change:
- For work, we install Logan on a flat surface area.
- We get rid of the crankcase protection, clean the drain hole and the area around it from dirt.
- Loosen the plug using a square screwdriver, and then unscrew it by hand. If the plug begins to play when opening, it means the thread is running out.
- The cloudy color of a liquid with an emulsion consistency indicates the presence of water in the lubricant.
- Remove the fill plug from the end of the box on the right.
- We install the drain plug in place, having first replaced the sealing element.
- Using a special filler syringe or using a watering can, fill in the liquid until it begins to flow over the edge of the hole. Then wipe the fill area from excess oil, tighten the plug and install all the dismantled Renault Logan elements.
How to make a replacement
Replacing transmission fluid in a Logan gearbox is not that difficult. It is better to carry out the procedure on a warm engine and in the warm season, using tools and materials such as:
- Elf 75W-80 grease;
- carrying with a lamp;
- 10 mm spanners;
- square slot screwdriver;
- a large syringe or hose with a sealed funnel;
- metal brush;
- gasket for gearbox drain plug;
- container for collecting oil with a volume of at least 5 liters.
Before starting work, warm up the box by driving 3-5 kilometers, then place the car over the inspection hole. To avoid trouble, be sure to secure the vehicle by applying the handbrake or placing a shoe under the rear wheel. Only then proceed with replacement.
Outsider
When choosing the best oil for price and quality, experienced owners do not ignore not only the advantages, but also the disadvantages of some types of lubricants. For example, motorists have come to the conclusion that the worst oil for the Renault Logan gearbox is Shell Getriebeoil EP 75W-90 GL4. After filling with such oil, after some time noise, vibrations and crunching noises appear in the transmission when switching.
There are three types of oil:
- Mineral lubricant is the most affordable product recommended for use in old engines and in cars with high mileage. Various additives containing large amounts of sulfur are added to such oil, and this already suggests low quality oil.
- Semi-synthetic oil is a higher quality product and is considered the best option in terms of quality and price. Such a liquid, however, contains more mineral composition, and therefore it is also better recommended for cars with high mileage.
- Synthetic oil is the best option for the Renault Logan gearbox. This is the most fluid oil that never freezes at low temperatures, unlike the above two types. At the same time, due to its fluidity, such oil penetrates the parts of the box faster and more efficiently and lubricates them. In addition, synthetics are designed for a longer replacement period.
According to the owners' experience
In reality, Renault Logan owners act differently:
- When the clutch basket was replaced, the oil was drained from the box. There was a good argument to replace the fluid completely, at the same time replacing the clutch cable, this is a disease.
- The first replacement was made after 190 thousand kilometers;
- When buying a car, the owner decided that the service interval would be 60 thousand km.
190 and 60 – these numbers differ by an order of magnitude. And both are puzzling. Regarding the first point, we note that the owner prepared for the replacement in advance: the box was warmed up, the plug was purchased immediately. We advise you to do the same.
Possible malfunctions after replacement
If the oil change is carried out correctly, the gearbox will last for the entire life of the vehicle. But some car enthusiasts do not clean the filler hole well from dust and soil, as a result of which the new oil becomes contaminated and loses its quality. This immediately affects the operation of the gearbox. The bearings wear out quickly, a hum appears when the unit is operating, and extraneous sounds appear when changing gears. Spontaneous gear disengagement is possible while the vehicle is moving. If you do not take immediate action and fill in new lubricant, the gearbox will fail and you will have to take the car to a service center for major repairs. Any questions? Watch the video where everything is shown in detail:
The repair and operation manual for Renault Logan, Sandero, Largus, Logan 2, Sandero 2 states that the oil in the manual transmission is filled for the entire service life of the gearbox and does not require replacement. But during operation of the machine, the internal boot of the left drive often fails. The boot becomes tanned in the cold, breaks and water gets into the oil, which requires an oil change.
Logan 1.6
There is no need to add lubricant to a 4 or 5 speed transmission.
In accordance with the Renault Logan manufacturer's instructions, you only need to check its level and top up the fluid when servicing the car. However, Russian drivers constantly complain that the left boot, which is connected to the grenade and is washed with box oil, fails. That’s why the experts “pull the blanket over themselves” - they advise changing the lubricant in the gearbox every 60 km. If you don’t change it, then the gearbox may fail - you will need capital. Due to the considerable cost of both the part itself and the work, replacing the fluid as a preventative measure will definitely save you money!
An oil change in the Logan gearbox is necessary, regardless of breakdowns or high mileage. If you have a new car, you need to change the oil after using the car for six months (or after 15,000 kilometers). Usually, at the factory, the oil in the box is slightly underfilled (according to standards), and while the box is running in, its parts inside (gears) are ground in.
During this initial period of use, many particles of metal shavings enter the oil. Therefore, it is better to change it yourself, despite the service center, which will deny the obligation of this procedure. Moreover, the asking price is half an hour of time and 17 dollars!
The first step in properly changing the gearbox fluid is purchasing the right mixture. Remember that transmission mixture and motor oil are different products. And those motorists who calmly pour engine lubricant into the gearbox are at great risk. Before pouring new oil into the Renault Logan box, you need to drive a little, thereby warming up the lubricating fluid and mixing it (with dirt and impurities).
Advantages and features of ELF Tranself NFJ 75W80 oil:
- The formula used in the creation process eliminates the problem of speed jumping;
- Has heat resistance at the highest level;
- Even in the most severe frosts, it retains a liquid structure for easy gear shifting;
- EP additives for gearbox parts retain resistance to loads;
- Protection against corrosion and oxidation;
- Good viscosity stability and resistance to water.
For a safe replacement procedure, it is worth considering these examples of precautions:
- Protective gloves and a gas extraction device must be used;
- It is also necessary to use safety glasses;
- Use only serviceable tools;
- Use a hat if possible.
The list of tools used to change the oil is small:
- 8 mm square wrench.
- Pliers.
- Portable lighting.
- Wire brush.
- 10 mm socket wrench.
- Funnel with hose (0.5 m) or blower.
- Container for draining used oil.
Many people are accustomed to the mandatory change of transmission oil in manual and automatic transmissions. But, there are cars that do not need such frequent fillings, such as Logans. It is necessary to fill the Renault Logan gearbox with oil only in case of repair or complete dismantling of the mechanism.
In this case, the transmission fluid for Logan is selected very carefully in order to match the original as closely as possible. Therefore, having such a car, you need to know everything about how to pour oil into the gearbox.
If the oil seal flies on Logans, then transmission oil is automatically consumed in large quantities. It is then that changing the oil in the gearbox becomes simply necessary. Only high-quality factory oil goes into the Renault Logan box, and remember that you must control the volume so that there is no empty space.
It is better to start the replacement process when the oil is warm: after a trip. This way, the transmission fluid will flow out faster, and impurities and dirt particles will be removed better. The replacement algorithm consists of five steps.
Step 1. Find the place where the crankcase protection is located. We take a 10 mm wrench.
Step 2. Unscrew the plastic cap (pictured) by hand. The filler plug for filling the transmission fluid is unscrewed with an 8 mm wrench. Place a container before turning the key.
Step 3. Wait until the waste liquid is completely poured out. Set the container aside.
Step 4. Get out of the hole. We take new oil, pour it into the hole using a funnel and a hose. In this case, the funnel is placed in the engine compartment (pictured).
Step 5. Tighten the plug and put everything in place. Don't forget to replace the disposable gasket on the drain plug.
Semi-synthetics
- Axxis Power A LPG 10W-40;
- Azmol Leader Plus 10W-40;
- S-Oil DRAGON SL 10W-40;
- ZIC A 10W-40;
- Pennasol Super Light 10W-40.
Synthetics
- Toyota / Lexus / Daihatsu SN 5W-30;
- Pennasol Super Pace 5W-40;
- Delphi Prestige Plus 5W-40;
- Repsol Elite Multivalvulas 10W-40;
- ZIC X7 LS 10W-40.
- Axxis Power A LPG 10W-40;
- Azmol Leader Plus 10W-40;
- S-Oil DRAGON SL 10W-40;
- Pennasol Super Light 10W-40;
- ZIC A 10W-40.
Synthetics
- Toyota / Lexus / Daihatsu SN 5W-30;
- Pennasol Super Pace 5W-40;
- Repsol Elite Multivalvulas 10W-40;
- Delphi Prestige Plus 5W-40;
- ZIC X7 LS 10W-40.
Semi-synthetics
- Axxis Power A LPG 10W-40;
- Azmol Leader Plus 10W-40;
- Pennasol Super Light 10W-40;
- ZIC A 10W-40;
- Axxis Power X 10W-40.
Synthetics
- Toyota / Lexus / Daihatsu SN 5W-30;
- Pennasol Super Pace 5W-40;
- Repsol Elite Multivalvulas 10W-40;
- ZIC X7 Diesel 10W-40;
- ZIC X7 LS 10W-40;
- Axxis Gold Sint A3/B4 5W-40.
- Warm up the engine to operating temperature and then let it cool for 5-7 minutes. The oil drains better and faster if it is not cold. Hot temperatures can burn you, so it’s better to let the engine sit for a while.
- Open the filler neck of the cylinder block (where we will pour oil) and pull out the dipstick. If you give oxygen through, the liquid will flow out faster.
- We jack up the car and put it on supports. A necessary step for easy access to the drain plug. You can also use a viewing hole or overpass.
- Unscrew the drain plug with a wrench. Remember that used oil will be hot and take precautions to avoid skin burns.
- We pour the waste into the prepared container. Do not dump waste directly onto the ground!
- Unscrew the oil filter. If the filter is tightly clamped, a special removable filter wrench may be required.
- We install the new filter after lubricating its sealing ring with oil, and pouring a little oil right into the middle so that it absorbs. The number of the original oil filter is 8200768913. Cheaper analogues that are suitable for Logan: FRAM PH5796, MANN W753, MAHLE C467, FILTRON P6433, PURFLUX LS932 and many others.
- We tighten the drain plug after making sure that the washer located on its thread is intact. If necessary, it must be replaced (sealing washer).
- We lower the car from the racks and pour oil into the empty engine, guided by the dipstick.
- After the poured oil reaches the middle of the dipstick between the MIN and MAX marks, wait 3-5 minutes. Afterwards we warm up the engine for about 5 minutes and measure the level again. As a rule, after the first warm-up the level drops and we add as much as we need.
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To replace the power steering fluid, remove the air duct and the reservoir with power steering fluid. Pour the old liquid from the barrel into another container. When draining, pay attention to the condition of the old oil and the presence of foreign metal particles.
If they are noticeable, this may indicate wear on the pump. To completely drain the power steering, you can rotate the steering wheel left and right.
Replacing the sensor does not require much effort. At the rear of the cylinder block (where the unit number is indicated), press the wire lock and remove the terminal. The sensor itself is unscrewed with a key x 22. When installing a new sensor, make sure that there is a sealing washer.
This is done during an oil change, at approximately 15 thousand kilometers (officials call this figure). If you change the oil at 10 thousand, then it is better to change the filter to a new one.
For motor 1.4/1. 6 eight-valve engines will require 3.3 synthetic or semi-synthetic oil.
For a sixteen-valve 1.6 you need to pour 4.9 liters. Don't forget to make a reserve of ~0.5/1 l.
for periodic monitoring of engine oil level. The Logan gearbox (box) needs to be filled with 3.1 liters of gear oil (applies to 1.4 and 1.
6). The automatic transmission (automatic transmission) is more voracious and will ask for 7.6 liters.
The hydraulic booster and brake system will require 1 liter (1 liter for each system). The cooling system will ask you to fill it with 5.45 liters.
Oil drained from the gearbox at 60 thousand km. It was already very dirty, so the checkpoint was working with problems
However, despite the fact that the manufacturer (by the way, the plant was built in 2003) did not set a time limit for changing transmission oil and fluids, explaining that this is not required for the correct and smooth operation of the gearbox, experienced craftsmen and service center mechanics for servicing Renault cars, they recommend replacement every 60,000-100,000 kilometers (depending on conditions and operating time).
Find out more about when it is necessary to change the oil on a Renault Logan here!
And on the other hand, no one is immune from the fact that before this cherished mileage occurs, the clutch will fail or the CV joint on the left side will not need to be replaced, and then changing the oil in the gearbox becomes a desirable procedure. To avoid premature failure, monitor the condition of the CV joint boots and change them if they are damaged!
Adviсe
- Before starting work, travel at least 10-15 km so that the oil inside the gearbox warms up and becomes less viscous.
- If the sealing gasket of the filler plug is not torn and is elastic, it can be reinstalled.
- Pay attention to the processing status. The presence of an emulsion indicates mixing of oil and water. Often such a nuisance is a consequence of a leak in the boot of the inner CV joint of the left drive shaft. Therefore, inspect the boot for tears or loose clamps. Pay attention to the transmission breather, through which, if installed incorrectly, water and dirt enter the manual transmission. Often, after unqualified repairs, craftsmen neglect the correct installation of the breather. 4.For preventive purposes, rinse and blow out the breather with compressed air. As the pressure inside the transmission increases, a completely clogged "breather" valve can push out. If the malfunction is not noticed in time, dust, dirt and moisture will render the new gear oil unusable.
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5. We recommend lubricating the engine protection mounting bolts with graphite grease.
Seal
How often should the oil be changed?
Despite the fact that the Renault Logan manufacturing plant has not set a time frame for changing the transmission oil, explaining that this is not required for correct and smooth operation of the gearbox, experienced craftsmen and service center mechanics recommend changing the fluid in the gearbox every 60-100 thousand kilometers. (depending on conditions and operating time).
In accordance with the Renault Logan manufacturer's instructions, it is necessary to regularly check the oil level and top it up during vehicle maintenance.