The Renault Logan manufacturer provides all the necessary information for an individual vehicle. It is included in special information plates , in which, in addition to the VIN code, you can even specify the paint code. Let's consider what other information the indicated plates carry , as well as where the Renault Logan engine number is.
What to do if the numbers are not visible?
On a used car, the surface of the power unit element on which the number is stamped becomes covered with a coating of rust and the marking becomes impossible to see.
We do not recommend using sandpaper to remove it, since the VIN numbers are not very strongly stamped and can be easily erased. If this happens, when selling the car you may be suspected of hiding true information about the car. Even bigger troubles may arise if the worn-out VIN code of the engine is discovered by a forensic expert. He can send the car for examination and charge you with a violation under Art. 326 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation “Destruction or forgery of a vehicle identification number.” Therefore, it is better to get rid of rust using special products and soft rags.
You can avoid the appearance of corrosion using preventive measures - when buying a new car, immediately apply a little graphite lubricant to the engine area where the VIN code is located.
Friends, where is it actually located? I found two when setting it up. The traffic cop found another 3rd one. Is it there? Vin VF1 is not Turkish, but French. Where is the damn number on the 3s engine? Special vehicles. Capital x7l. The letters further refer to the type of car.
Addition to the owner's review of Renault Fluence 2022: location of the Fluence diagnostic connector, body number, etc., I want to show where the diagnostic connector is located, Angarsk, photographs. Where and how to find the VIN number of a Renault Fluence spare part. So here is the VIN number and nameplate. At the same time, the Turks have the same ones. I am a Turk, the VIN starts with VF1BZL.
I also have a Turk with VF1, so what? It is written above that VF1 is French, but this is not so, Turks also have this VIN.
Advantages and disadvantages of power units
The 1.6 and 16-valve engine differs from the newest modifications; they are the absence of a mechanism for regulating valve timing; this engine design has significantly reduced the dynamic capabilities of the car. But the advantages remain excellent maintainability and durability, that is, increased engine life, thanks to simple design solutions from the manufacturer.
- the cylinder volume increased (1.6 liter engine), which made it possible to increase power in tandem with torque and improve the dynamic characteristics of the model;
- The output of the unit increased by 11% (up to 82 “horses” for the 8-valve version), this engine design led to an increase in torque to 132 Nm;
- the cooling system has undergone adjustments (the need for this modification is caused by an increase in engine power);
- the cooling circuit did not receive any fundamental design changes, and its elements were modified in order to achieve greater performance, for which some new components were integrated, which led to an increase in the service life and efficiency of the system, especially in critical operating modes;
- power increase up to 102 hp. With. achieved thanks to the use of new components in the cylinder-piston group units and valve mechanism:
- the number of valves has doubled (from 8 to 16), which ensured better filling of the combustion chambers with the mixture and led to an increase in power and dynamic capabilities;
- The service life of the motor has increased significantly due to the use of parts made of new, more durable alloys;
- After applying the previously mentioned design solutions in the updated engines, Renault Logan developers managed to achieve significant fuel efficiency:
- 1.5 liters at a distance of 100 km for a 1.6 engine with 16 valves;
- 1.0 liter in the case of 8-valve engine versions.
All these innovations made it possible to essentially make the 1.6 liter engine. more modern (especially the 16-valve version), the engine life has become longer. Although the developers did not apply progressive and innovative design solutions, this modernization of engines for Renault Logan still made it possible to attract a large army of new potential customers to the updated model.
- increasing the performance level of the intake and exhaust systems, which was a necessary measure to bring engines to the advanced level of environmental standards;
- the use of new elements in the cooling circuit, which significantly improved the efficiency of its operation;
- replacement of the generator with a version of increased performance for the Renault Logan model, which made it possible to cope with increased loads on this unit (now the power varies depending on the model’s configuration)
Considerable experience in operating Renault cars with all three types of liquid-cooled engines allows us to draw up a fairly objective picture of their strengths and weaknesses, and in the two models K7J and K7M these characteristics are almost identical, and only the K4M engine has significant differences due to more modern technological solutions, and which one is better is up to the buyers to decide.
Advantages of K7J and K7M:
- low cost and simplicity of engine design;
- reliability: confirmed service life is more than 400 thousand km;
- versatility and maintainability;
- ease of maintenance;
- high torque;
- good “elasticity” of engines, equal to 1.83.
Disadvantages of K7J and K7M:
- relatively high fuel consumption;
- instability of speed when idling;
- the absence of hydraulic compensators in the design, as a result - the need for constant adjustment of the valves (after 20-30 thousand km);
- “bending” of valves when the timing belt suddenly breaks;
- increased “fluidity” of crankshaft oil seals;
- poor reliability of cooling system elements;
- noisy and prone to vibration.
The advantages of the K7M model over the K7J include only an increase in maximum power by 12% and maximum torque by 11%. But the 1.6 liter internal combustion engine also pays for these advantages with an increased appetite of 4.5%, so which is better is a moot point.
Interior
The interior of the “French-Turkish” Renault Symbol 3 almost completely replicates the interior of the Logan. The interior turned out to be 2-color - the upper part is gray, and the part below the glass is beige. The driver is presented with a steering wheel with many functions. The instrument panel has a beautiful frame with smooth lines, which looks quite chic.
In addition to the tachometer, the instrument panel is equipped with control indicators and an on-board computer. There are a total of 3 round dials on the dashboard. The leftmost dial is responsible for the number of revolutions of the power unit. The central one, the largest, was allocated for the speedometer.
To the right of it, in a round frame, there is a small rectangular screen showing all the necessary information from the on-board computer. The steering wheel has a chrome frame and is adjustable, as is the driver's seat. There is an armrest that can be removed or lowered, depending on need. Only the driver has this advantage, which is a little disappointing.
The center console has the latest multimedia system with a 7-inch touch screen and navigation system. Above this display there are nice deflectors for the ventilation system. And directly below it is the screen of the Renault Simbol 2022 multimedia system there is a climate system control unit, which has a rather non-standard appearance.
Below the “climate” block there was a place for two cup holders, which are located near the gearbox shift knob. You can also see a cigarette lighter nearby. Interestingly, for passengers sitting in the back there is also a cup holder, although only one, and a cigarette lighter. The glove compartment, although not the largest, is spacious and backlit.
The second row seating can accommodate three adult passengers, but again, only two people will sit comfortably. Headrests are provided. There is enough free space above your head, but sometimes there may not be enough space in your knees, especially if you move the front seats completely back. The sofa itself turned out to be flat and devoid of any additional amenities.
The luggage compartment of the third generation Renault Symbol repeats that of the latest Renault Logan family - 510 liters of usable space. More expensive configurations now have the ability to fold the rear backrests of the sofa in certain proportions, which allows for better use of the trunk. However, you shouldn’t expect a level platform here. The raised floor is equipped with a full-size spare wheel.
Maintenance requirements for all Renault Logan engines
This car was bought for a variety of purposes; a lot of cars were purchased for commercial use. But still, Logan remains one of the most popular purchase options for families who simply do not have the money for a more expensive car.
There are also other reasons to buy such a car:
- this is a practical and reliable car that has virtually no childhood illnesses (more on this below), Renault did not experiment with downsizing and other fashion trends;
- the company ensured more or less high-quality assembly both at Avtoframos of the first models and on the assembly line in Tolyatti; there are almost no questions about the accuracy of the assembly processes;
- the car is more comfortable than all its classmates, the fairly soft suspension and high ground clearance create a pleasant operating sensation, the interior is tailored perfectly and is devoid of budgetary nuances;
- the car offers a decent place in the second row, as well as a fairly large trunk without any nuances, the space in this car is enough for five adults without discomfort;
- The handling is excellent, Logan steers well even at high speed, which also beats its main rivals, this is very important to understand when comparing with other cars.
The car turned out to be not just high-quality, it became a cult car. Many car selectors and experts say that such cars need to be purchased extremely carefully. Indeed, many cars were taken for taxis, for commercial service, for trips on endless business trips throughout Russia.
To ensure the longest possible engine life, it is necessary to follow the manufacturer's specifications:
- properly selected motor oil;
- spark plug;
- fuel and fuels;
- regularly checking the condition and level of the coolant;
- regular diagnostics and replacement of the fuel filter and air filter;
- changing engine oil in accordance with the manufacturer's requirements.
Why you need to check your car for collateral - expert opinion
Vitaly Zaikov, auto expert
“One way or another, if the car is pledged, get ready for a lawsuit. The procedure will be long, nervous and tiring. You will have to try to get the court to recognize you as a bona fide buyer. And even if this happens, only the amount specified in the purchase and sale agreement will be returned. Despite the fact that very often the contract indicates a cost much less than the actual price of the car. In this case, the defendant will pay 50% of income every month. Do you need this? It is better and more correct to check the car several times for collateral with the bank before purchasing through open and paid services.”
Let's sum it up
The considered power units with 8 or 16 valves are traditional for the French manufacturer of all models, including Renault Logan, and are unpretentious in operation and wear-resistant. In terms of dynamic characteristics, these engines are not “sports”, but they will not allow the owner to lag behind heavy traffic on the road.
Their reviews are very, very positive. There were cases when engines failed after driving 100 thousand km due to defects in the crankshaft liners, but these precedents were not widespread.
Budget car models Renault Logan 1.4 and Logan 1.6, over the almost ten-year history of their presence on Russian roads, have managed to win the recognition of many thousands of car enthusiasts.
The concept of the French manufacturer, which decided back in 1998 to create an inexpensive and practical passenger car intended for developing markets, received the most triumphant continuation and unexpected development in Russia. If in 2005 it all began at a small site of the Avtoframos enterprise in Moscow with the “screwdriver” assembly of several thousand cars per month, then today the Volzhsky Automobile Plant is building its annual plans, relying on the whole “Loganov” model scattering: Renault Logan, Renault Sandero, Lada Largus. Sales of these three models in the country in 2022 exceeded 160 thousand units.
To a large extent, such popularity of these Renault models was ensured by the use of proven and well-proven 8V single-shaft internal combustion engines (ICE) of the K7J 1.4 l and K7M 1.6 l series as power units.
The flagship of the line for Renault Logan is considered to be a 16V four-cylinder liquid cooling unit with the index K4M, the production of which, in addition to the parent company Renault Espana, is also mastered at AvtoVAZ production sites. This 16-crank engine with decent technical characteristics is still equipped with other Renault models (Sandero, Duster, Kangoo, Megane, Fluence), as well as Lada Largus and Nissan Almera G11.
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Price and main competitors in the market - who to look at?
For example, let's take a 2022 car that has driven about 120,000 km. This is a very good purchase, for which you can pay up to 400,000 rubles. On the market, many sellers ask for more, but it’s not worth paying more money for this car. We will try to find competitors within the same amount.
So, from the competitors it is worth highlighting the following models:
- Daewoo Gentra. If the Uzbek assembly does not bother you, you can try to take a car of a higher class. This is a more spacious car with relatively good parameters and durable engines. It has problems, but the number of them is tolerable for the price.
- Volkswagen Polo Sedan. Not a bad car with an indestructible unit, excellent gearboxes, excellent technical equipment. But be careful with the options, many cars don’t even have air conditioning, and the safety of the car is reduced due to the lack of options that are required today.
- Hyundai Solaris. A very good Hyundai is quite capable of replacing your Renault, the assembly here is much better, and the design is more interesting. But you need to carefully look at the mileage, since after 150,000 km Solaris begins to ask for a lot of money for constant maintenance and repairs. Repairing a machine is not cheap.
- Chevrolet Cruze. You can take a swing at the C-class and buy a Cruze, which has proven itself very well in Russia and received excellent reviews. Immediately pay attention to the body, which rusts very quickly; you should not buy a car older than 2022, this can become a problem.
- Chevrolet Aveo. You can find a very fresh 2021 T300 generation car for the same money. Chevrolet is assembled much better than Logan, has more reliable engines and gearboxes, and has a slightly longer service life. But the design is not an acquired taste, so you will have to include individual parameters.
Interestingly, almost all representatives of the class are reliable and quite hardy. Among them there is not a single domestic car that at this age was beyond competition. For the same money, you can aim for a new Lada Granta, but with a decent choice of car on the secondary market, you will be able to buy a much more comfortable and high-quality car with good technical parameters and good equipment.
Components of the code
This cipher consists of 17 characters, including Latin letters and Arabic numerals. But there are three exceptions, these include the characters “I”, “O”, “Q”. Why are these letters not involved in the formation of the VIN code? The answer to this question is very simple. The characters “O” and “Q” themselves are very easy to confuse with “0”. And correcting “O” and “0” in “Q” is not at all difficult. The same goes for the letter "I", which is not only easy to confuse with "1", but also easy to correct, for example by making it "L", "F", "E" or some other symbol. Therefore, to make life more difficult for scammers, these emails have been excluded.
The VIN structure can be divided into three main parts. It all starts with WMI, which consists of the first three characters. This part characterizes the vehicle manufacturer. By deciphering the first character, you will find out in which geographic region the car was produced; the second character hides more specific information, namely the country. The third character will already provide information about a specific manufacturer. In some cases, you may see a "9" in the last position of the WMI portion, which means fewer than 500 cars are being produced per year. But the manufacturer’s information will thus be hidden behind marks 12-14.
Decoding VIN Renault
Next comes the VDS group, it includes six characters. Typically, this part of the code contains information about the characteristics of the vehicle: body type, model range, equipment, and so on. Sometimes the total weight of the vehicle and safety systems may also be specified. The ninth position of the VIN, where the control number is hidden, deserves special attention. If fraudsters have a small chance to fake other symbols, during verification this particular number will not confirm the authenticity of the marking.
The last closure group is called VIS. Includes 8 symbols. After reading them, you can find out the model year of the car, namely the American manufacturer. In general, this information is very individual in nature, for example, for most cars made in the USA, the tenth position indicates the next model year, starting on July 1st. There is a very logical explanation for this, because many cars are the first to go to the exhibition and will only go on sale next year. Therefore, with the beginning of the new calendar year, there are no “last year’s” goods in stock. But it is worth noting that many manufacturers may not be clever with numbers and indicate the actual year of manufacture.
F4R Specifications:
The power increased by 8 horsepower, the traction and top speed of the Duster increased accordingly, despite the fact that the fuel consumption actually did not change, and the environmental standard increased to EURO 5.
Georgy, driving experience 15 years
Wisdom overcame greed, and I took a Renault Duster with a two-liter F4R. The test drive showed that the seemingly monotonous Dusters are completely different in traction and dynamics. The fuel consumption of the more massive Renault is not much more than that of its younger brother. On the highway 8 l.
, within the boundaries of the town 12-13. I'm happy with the purchase. Inexpensive and harsh.
Andrey, driving experience 9 years
And you want a frisky and comfortable ride. The 4.0 Renault Duster engine is good and allows you to accelerate to 170 km/h with reserve. Now he drives uphill through mud and snow like a tank.
I highly recommend installing additional sound insulation, and standard, in other words, other protection for the Renault Duster engine. The companion split the crankcase. In Abkhazia, I ran into a stone hidden in the grass.
Yuri, driving experience 7 years
The sound grew stronger all the time. Fuel consumption has also increased. I went to the officials. They said to change the phase regulator, timing belt and rollers. Changed it. Got into the car, Duster, you can think about it again, it was born - quiet. Gasoline consumption has decreased. This is great, but why did you take off so early?
How to get the necessary information?
Many owners of Renault Megane 2 are wondering: where is the engine number? Independent searches under the hood quite often end in vain. Firstly, this data can be viewed in the technical documentation that the manufacturer attaches to each produced machine. In particular, in the instruction manual, which contains exact data about each component of the car, including the engine number. Secondly, the markings can be found directly on the engine.
Renault Logan 2 – VIN and engine number
Unlike the Hyundai Solaris, which took the title of sales leader from the French, car thieves do not take the Renault Logan seriously. However, this does not mean that the examination of forensic evidence should be considered unsatisfactory. In addition to the mass of credit cars and cars with registration restrictions, there are other problems due to which it is better to refuse one or another option.
The duplicated adhesive on the B-pillar does not resist moisture well, begins to bubble, wears out and gradually peels off
For example, sometimes Logan 2 begins to detach the license plate from the central pillar by duplicating the VIN, which sometimes arouses suspicion among inexperienced traffic cops and they may send the car for inspection. For maximum accuracy, it is necessary to check the main VIN; it is now located under the front passenger seat, as in the Lada Largus, and not as in the previous generation Logan, on the engine panel, although the cutout for markings in the sound insulation also remains.
Data is also written to the ECUs; Many multi-brand scanners are suitable for testing.
Renault Logan 2 – Engine number K4M, K7M, h5M
However, the main problem is right under the hood. Previous Logan owners know how easily and quickly engine numbers rot. In 3-4 years, the symbols could not only be covered with an anti-corrosion coating, but also disappear forever without a trace, so neither WD-40 nor lotions with zinc helped. The second generation did not lose this drawback, but the rate of destruction dropped sharply. It is especially dangerous to remove traces. Let me remind you that the law contains an article on the deliberate destruction of forensic evidence. Fortunately, the new amendments make it possible to re-register a vehicle with a gear drive. Not without unnecessary gestures, of course, but it’s possible.
On the central K4M (1.6, 103 hp) and K7M (1.6, 82 hp) Logan 2, the engine number is located almost in the same place: in the front part of the unit, under the manifold, closer to the gearbox. In the case of a 16-valve unit, it is extremely difficult to establish visual contact with the platform, even with the help of a viewing mirror. To clean the symbols from rust, you will have to completely disassemble part of the air duct, otherwise your hand with a rag will not crawl.
Engine number K7M (1.6, 82 l.)
The only engine that definitely won’t have problems with corrosion and dirt is the Nissan h5M unit (113 hp). The engine number is marked vertically on the inclined platform at the front of the engine next to the gearbox:
Engine number HR16DE-h5M (113 hp)
What brands are Renault?
Renault / Renault models
- Renault Arkana. Renault Arkana. Renault Arkana. ...
- Renault Duster. Renault Duster. ...
- Renault Duster I. Renault Duster I. …
- Renault Captur. Renault Captur. ...
- Renault Logan Renault Logan ...
- Renault Logan Stepway. Renault Logan Stepway. ...
- Renault Sandero. Renault Sandero. ...
- Renault Sandero Stepway. Renault Sandero Stepway.
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Purchasing spare parts
Once you have found all the vehicle identification numbers (VINs), write them down and use them as a reference when purchasing replacement parts. Because manufacturers may change specifications, part designs, and suppliers, identification numbers become the only way to ensure you are purchasing the correct parts.
You can purchase parts for your car in two places - in a specialized store or from an authorized dealer. An official dealer, theoretically, should have any parts for your car in stock, while in specialized stores the choice is most often limited to parts that are subject to intense wear, such as shock absorbers, various gaskets, wires, chains, brake system components, etc. d.
In such stores, you most likely will not find important suspension components, transmission gear cylinders or crankcases. Used parts can be purchased for half the price, but you can never be sure of the quality of the part you are purchasing.