Author: Kot shashlik
October 20, 2015 10:58
Tags: USSR Koelsa Muscovites Soviet auto industry
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The cars of the Moscow Automobile Plant are as much a part of the history of the Soviet automobile industry as the production association itself. Nevertheless, many of the Muscovites are still in service and are putting more and more kilometers on their bias-ply (and not so bias-ply) tires.
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Wheel sizes Moskvich 412
The first fitting without turning the wheel showed that everything was fine. Checking the eversion of the wheels with tension and compression of the suspension revealed the following problems: 1. the tire touches the brake pipe coming from the GTZ, as well as the brake tube + brake hose mounting bracket itself. 2. The wheel rim touches the edge of the upper arm, due to its modern 7″ width. 3. The tire touches the stabilizer bar mounting bracket, as well as the strut itself and the stabilizer itself. 4. the disc touches the steering tip housing
The following was done: according to step 1 => I bought plates for a barn lock, their hole diameter was just right for the brake mount. hose. I cut off the excess length. I welded both plates on the spar closer to the beam (i.e., according to the photo, everything has moved to the left). Started the brake. hoses and checked that the hoses did not touch anything. I cut off the old bracket (it was located between 2 rusty bolts, see photo). Misha Uflyand twisted 2 tees from old M-412s (you won’t find these on sale). I bought a set of short tubes from the Volga and wrapped them with a pretzel on the tubet leg so that they fit into the tee!
according to point 3 => for now I had to abandon the stabilizer in its standard version and, accordingly, I cut off the strut bracket. I plan to install some other stub or make an individual one. While I dug up a 24 mm Ford Scorpio in the trash, it seemed suitable at first glance.
according to item 4 => removed the steering knuckle lever. He heated up the blowtorch, clamped the lever in a vice, heated it and slammed it with a sledgehammer, and so on several times “to the desired consistency” until the lever bent a little. The cooperative fufel vise fell apart. After such grief, I had to file down the tip bodies a little. The tips are still shovel-shaped with a huge body. The modern trapezoid (already bought it) has smaller ones. In general, I plan to shorten the levers as Uncle Singurindi taught and the problem will disappear by itself.
And for a snack, an understatement. From the lever to the beam is slightly more than the height of the bump stop. Some cooperative fenders have already collapsed, these USSR ones. They are holding on. The experiments are not over yet, everything is just beginning!
I would like to install something like 175/80 R13. But I don’t know what wheels to buy for such tires.
There are a lot of fights in our city and I think it will be possible to find them, it’s important to know what to look for. And another question: will it be possible to re-roll the previous, standard tires on them?
The catalog is incomplete but it was interesting to look at.
As for the tire size: standard wheels (with a rim width of 4.5 inches) can accommodate tires up to 185 wide (although this is too much, a maximum of 175 is better). So 175/80R13 can be safely installed on “original” wheels (by the way, for some time, instead of M-145, passenger Chizhi cars were equipped with M-154 tires - they are exactly 175 mm wide).
If you want to install any other disks, then the possible options here are:
I. Of the domestic ones - only VILS. At one time, a tiny batch of Zvezda Rally forged light-alloy wheels with holes for the Moskvich hub was produced (115/5 = 5 holes on a diameter of 115 mm). But this is a rarity, and IMHO it’s impossible to find them (although I saw them in Moscow, alas, on someone else’s car, not in a store).
II. From imported ones - what I tried myself. a) From BMW: they don’t even fit on the studs. b) From Mercedes: they fit on the studs, but the cones do not match, i.e. when tightening the nuts there will be problems with alignment. Although I saw (in Moscow) a luxury 2140 on Mercedes wheels with Volgov tires (205/70R14). The view is amazing! It turned out to be such a strong guy. Apparently, even such huge wheels have a place in Moskvich arches. There is one point here: wheels only from old Mercedes (123 body and earlier) are suitable, because the new ones (discs with round holes, like a jig-six) have a very long offset, and on a Muscovite, these wheels with the inner rim touch the handbrake cable guide at the rear and the steering knuckles at the front (checked). c) From American cars: as the salesman at the VILS brand store on Gorbunova Street (not far from the Kuntsevo market) told me, this is the best option. The “American” standard (I don’t know, however, whether all passenger cars have them - most likely not all) - the mounting holes are located on a circle with a diameter of 4.5 inches, or 114.3 mm. This is, as they say, “our favorite size.” And in terms of offset, discs on American cars are doing better - it is smaller, i.e. the wheel protrudes outwards more => less chance of hitting internal parts. So you can try looking at advertisements for the sale of used spare parts for American cars (not necessarily those made in America. You can try from the same Ford Granada (they were made in Europe) - there seem to be 5 holes on the wheels).
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