Which brake discs for Lada Granta, Kalina, Priora are better to choose?

01 October 2020 Lada.Online 23 556 0

Brake discs are replaced when their thickness becomes less than permissible (17.8 mm). Replacement is also carried out if they are damaged (cracked), unevenly worn, or when they are a source of runout. Let's figure out which brake discs are best to buy for the Lada Granta, Kalina and Priora family of cars

What front brake discs can be installed on Lada Kalina 2

By default, non-ventilated discs with grooves from a domestic manufacturer are installed on cars of the Lada family. The workmanship is not bad, but it is not enough for a long time.

We felt vibrations and beating in the steering wheel - the first sign of uneven wear. Carry out preventative maintenance as soon as possible, followed by replacing worn out elements.

The standard disc size is 19.0 mm. The maximum permissible minimum thickness of use is 17.8 mm, after which it is unsafe to use the brake system element. Similar standards apply to Lada Largus, Granta, Priora, Niva.

Installation of brake pads and discs from a foreign car

Instead of original VAZ brake pads and brake discs, install consumables from a foreign car, for example:

• Brembo brake discs (article: 09.8903.75) or ATE Power Disc 14 (article: 24.0320-0142.1);
• pads from Fiat (article: 13.0460-2813.2) or BMW (article: 180281).

No modifications or design changes to the brake system are required. The maximum that may be required (for example, for pads from BMW) is to slightly file the caliper brackets.

How are these components better? The discs have an increased contact area of ​​the pads, and the brake pads have an increased contact area (by about 25%). According to reviews from car enthusiasts, the installation of imported brake pads and discs had a positive effect on the performance of the braking system.

What kind of feedback can you leave about such a simple brake tuning? Is it worth switching from R13 to R14 brakes and abandoning original spare parts in favor of imported ones? Let us remind you that other useful tips for improving Lada cars can be found in the “Tuning” category. For example, you can significantly reduce noise in the cabin by installing additional door seals.

Hello everyone, today I was at my brother's tire shop getting the wheels balanced, and while the wheels were being removed I noticed the disc brakes.

Previously, for some reason I thought that Kalinas had 14 disc brakes, but today I tried them on and see that the radius is 13, what nonsense? or is it supposed to be like that?

My car is from 2011. Tell me who knows. I can't find information on the Internet

Original

Features of Kalina Sport

Lada Kalina Sport was created in 2008. After the release of the first car, the state registration of the model was successfully completed. Soon Kalina Sport cars were sent to Yaroslavl, Moscow, Izhevsk, Vologda, Voronezh, Perm, Volgograd, Kirov, Orenburg, Krasnoyarsk and other cities of the country.

Lada Kalina Sport is very similar to the Lux model. The sports version of Kalina differs in that it contains quite a lot of different original parts. These are door moldings, an exhaust pipe nozzle, a combination of various instruments with white scales and orange backlighting, original bumpers, a spoiler, and a nameplate on the fifth door. The interior of Kalina Sport is made in an elegant dark color, which gives it a special chic and uniqueness. The car is equipped with special sports pedal pads.

If we talk about brake discs on Kalina Sport, then most car enthusiasts claim that they are better on a regular Kalina. Of course, opinions differ, so which brakes to choose when purchasing a car is up to the buyer himself to decide. Good luck in choosing a car!

Substitutes

Installation of brake pads and discs from a foreign car

Instead of original VAZ brake pads and brake discs, install consumables from a foreign car, for example:

• Brembo brake discs (article: 09.8903.75) or ATE Power Disc 14 (article: 24.0320-0142.1);
• pads from Fiat (article: 13.0460-2813.2) or BMW (article: 180281).

No modifications or design changes to the brake system are required. The maximum that may be required (for example, for pads from BMW) is to slightly file the caliper brackets.

How are these components better? The discs have an increased contact area of ​​the pads, and the brake pads have an increased contact area (by about 25%). According to reviews from car enthusiasts, the installation of imported brake pads and discs had a positive effect on the performance of the braking system.

What kind of feedback can you leave about such a simple brake tuning? Is it worth switching from R13 to R14 brakes and abandoning original spare parts in favor of imported ones? Let us remind you that other useful tips for improving Lada cars can be found in the “Tuning” category. For example, you can significantly reduce noise in the cabin by installing additional door seals.

Substitutes

Advantages and disadvantages of different types of brakes

People tend to quickly get used to the conveniences that various technical means provide them. Do you have a desire to find out what is good about the rear disc brakes installed on Kalina?

Many experienced drivers will argue that rear disc brakes are much more effective than drum brakes. And we can quite agree with them. Naturally, skeptics will find shortcomings in such a braking system.

It's no secret that rear disc brakes are much more expensive than drum brakes. Caring for a disk system is much more difficult because it really does not like dirt. Particular difficulties arise if the car is an SUV. In general, there are many opinions from both experienced and novice drivers about which brakes are best.

Kalina Sport brakes are very effective

Not long ago, a comparison was made of the performance of rear disc and drum brakes. The difference of two meters in braking distance speaks for itself. The only condition for this check was that the brake system must have a certificate of conformity, which would guarantee the car’s ability to easily pass state technical inspection.

As a result, it was proposed to test two similar configurations, but different ones were provided by the first Ford Focus model, and the AvtoSportTekhnika organization provided the Chinese Cherry. As a result of the tests, the opinions and assumptions of skeptics were successfully debunked.

How to do the replacement yourself

Before starting repair work, we carry out comprehensive diagnostics in order to study the general technical condition of the car, identify the breakdown, calculate time, effort, and resources. Often the cause is a faulty working cylinder, system depressurization, or pipe damage.

We carry out diagnostics by placing the car on the inspection channel, jacking up each wheel one by one, and measuring the thickness of the disk. If the actual value is less than 17.8 mm. - replace it with a new one, subsequent operation is unsafe. Otherwise, we continue the inspection and troubleshoot the brake pads and working cylinder.

Final stages of work

Before replacing the caliper, you can immediately change the pad apron. This work will not take much time. In addition, replacing the old caliper with a new one is quite simple.

This is how the brake system is adjusted

It is also advisable to change the bleeder fitting. You can install a fitting from the Volga, since these parts are identical. After this, we return to screwing the caliper with the VAZ bracket. You can not unscrew the hose from the old caliper immediately, but only after the new unit is installed. If only the bracket is being changed, then the hose should not be touched, and there is no need to bleed the brakes either.

After finishing the work, you can paint the discs with alkyd enamel. It is best to apply three layers. The replacement of the front and rear brake discs can be considered complete. All that remains is to put on the wheel.

After about 200 kilometers, the new pads will begin to wear out. Remember that under no circumstances should you suddenly slow down, for example, from 100 kilometers per hour to 20. If you brake smoothly, you will be able to avoid thermal deformation of the disk.

Do not forget that for effective braking the rear brake disc must warm up gradually and several times. Manufacturers of Kalina strongly recommend replacing the HAZ every five years or after a mileage of 100 thousand kilometers. Do not neglect this valuable advice.

Sequencing

• We install the machine on a flat surface; for convenience, you can use a hydraulic lifting mechanism;
• Remove the wheel, unscrew the upper and lower guide on the caliper. We move it to the side and do not unscrew the brake fluid supply line. To make work easier, simply hang the caliper from the front strut (spring) housing;
• To dismantle the disk, unscrew the two bolts on the hub and hold the disk from turning;
• If necessary, tap the disc around the perimeter with a hammer from the end part. Direct impacts are prohibited, as there is a high probability of chamfer deformation;
• After removing the disk from the splines, we carry out troubleshooting, clean it of debris, and apply a thin layer of graphite lubricant to the guides;
• We install a new disk and assemble the structure in the reverse order.

When finished, press the brake pedal 3–4 times, bleed the system, and check the DOT level -4. We fill the missing amount as needed in the expansion tank of the master cylinder.

This completes replacing the brake disc with your own hands. Next, we carry out the procedure similar to the second wheel.

Installing R14 brakes instead of R13

According to the data from the table, you can see that to switch from R13 to R14 brake discs, no modifications are required and the cost of modification is low (buy R14 brake discs and fixed caliper brackets).

Don't forget to check that the rims are at least R14 in diameter. We improve the brakes using the familiar instructions for replacing brake discs.

Most car owners, after installing R14 brake discs, feel a noticeable difference when braking and remain satisfied. However, this is not the limit, the brakes can be made even better!

VERDICT

Sergey UDOTOV, RHHCC champion

Proma Brakes were the first to evaluate the brakes. Excellent stability in a series of combat circles, good force-deceleration feedback.

Then there was a series of laps with a set of JBT brakes. The braking points before turns on the track are almost the same as with Proma Brakes, but I liked the information content even more. The JBT withstood a series of eight combat laps with dignity, did not start to “swim”, and the brake pedal became only a little softer.

To summarize, I note: both kits are an excellent solution for tuning the standard brake system. It is difficult to say how feasible this is without increasing the power supply of the vehicle. In the championship in the “time attack” discipline, such high stability in a series of combat circles is useless; you can completely limit yourself to replacing the pads in the standard calipers with more “evil” ones.

Tormoza_Kalina zr9–14_1

We undertook to prepare the editorial VAZ-21927 for participation in amateur circuit racing. Let's try to find a balance and build a car that can not only show decent results in lap time trials, but also drive with pleasure every day - after all, reliable brakes, a powerful engine and good handling will not hurt on public roads.

First of all, of course, the brakes. Moreover, the front ones: during intense deceleration, a significant part of the car’s weight is distributed forward, so it is they who bear the main burden of converting kinetic energy into thermal energy. How can we evaluate how much better the mechanisms we have chosen compare to the standard ones? We decided to use a complex parameter - we will record the time of passage of the Smolensk Ring. After all, the more effective the brakes, the longer you can keep the gas open and hit the brake pedal closer to the entrance to the turn. Let's look not only at the peak deceleration values, but also at the stability of the brakes: how many laps can the tuning mechanisms withstand without stopping?

Before the start of the tests, Kalina was prepared: the engine oil was changed and Motul-RBF660 brake fluid with a boiling point of 325 °C was added - this is used in racing cars. True, for the winter it will have to be replaced with a regular one: it is too hygroscopic.

The original wheels were put aside. Firstly, there is nothing to do on standard size universal tires on the race track. Secondly, larger brakes require a different disc size. We settled on 15×6.5 ET35 wheels from Togliatti: the forging is light and durable, and the size is suitable for all AvtoVAZ models. On the attached documents there is a warning: the letter S in the model name indicates only a sporty design, the wheels are not intended for competitions. Slick actually makes custom wheels for racing. But all the fret enthusiasts whom we interviewed also drive products “from the store” - and did not notice any problems.

VERDICT

Oleg PETRIKOV, “Behind the Wheel” test driver, Russian vice-champion

I really liked the Proma kit for its deceleration efficiency. With it, in addition, the clarity of the drive has improved - it’s easier for me to control the deceleration with pedal effort, although I admit that this will cause some difficulties for ordinary drivers. I think most motorists will like the HP Brakes kit, which is similar to “civilian” brakes in terms of pedal movement and force on it.

In each case, Kalina does not become much faster on the race track, and it was not possible to assess which set will last longer - even after fifteen laps in racing mode, the front brakes do not lose effectiveness.

In everyday use of the Lada, standard mechanisms are quite sufficient. It makes sense for residents of regions who operate their cars on mountain roads to install more efficient ones.

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Lada Kalina cars of both generations have front disc brakes and rear drum brakes.
As original front brake pads for Kalina 1, the catalogs indicate 21100-3501080-00 and 21100-3501080-01, for Lada Kalina 2 the article number is 11180-3501080-00. The same catalog numbers are used for Lada Priora. Factory brake pads TIIR

Rear drum brake pads are specified as 21080-3502090-01 or 11180-3502090-10 (with ABS) for Kalina 1 and 2.

Many of these part numbers are invalid; instead, online parts stores offer other original part numbers or equivalents. This makes sense, since in the case of the Lada Kalina (and LADA in general), the original is often inferior in quality to its substitutes .

The most popular brake pad analogues are Ate, Brembo, TRW, TSN, Finwhale and Ferodo. The latter are divided into two types according to the color of the box - “red” and “green”. “Green” ones, with the prefix Target in the name, are positioned by the manufacturer as an improved replacement for factory pads , but they are not intended for heavy loads. Red, with the prefix Premier, are considered premium pads that can withstand extreme loads.

The best-selling disc brake pads for Lada Kalina are products from Ate, followed by Brembo and TRW. Drum brake pads for Kalina are most often purchased from TSN due to its favorable price. They are slightly inferior in popularity to TRW and Ate pads.

The brake pads indicated here are also suitable for other VAZ cars: 2110, 2114, Lada Granta and others, with R13 and R14 brake discs.

Front brake pads are replaced approximately twice as often as rear brake pads. The exact frequency of replacement is quite difficult to establish, but the front pads are changed at intervals of 30-50 thousand km, and the rear pads at intervals of 60-90 thousand. To more accurately determine when Lada Kalina brake pads need to be replaced, it is worth checking the thickness of the friction linings every 15,000 km. A thickness of about 2 mm is considered critical.

Drivers are often motivated to change brake pads on Kalina by squeaking brake pads. Special plates installed on the disc brake pads from the outside help significantly combat this. That's what they call them - anti-squeak plates . Such plates can often be found in more expensive brake pad sets. However, you should choose brake pads not based on the presence or absence of anti-squeak plates, but on the basis of reliability and braking efficiency.

*The price of Lada Kalina brake pads is given as of April 2017 for Moscow and the region. **Bold indicates those pads that are most popular in a particular case.